RE: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

RE: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Zieg, Mark]

On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 08:48:07AM -0400, Joe Buehler wrote:
>Paul Johnston wrote:
>
>>NT has an equivalent to /etc/hosts, so I think the cygwin install should
>>create this symbolic link:
>>
>>/etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
>
>This is a great idea, making allowances for variations in the different
>versions of Windows, of course.

Remember that corporate NT users often don't have admin rights to their own
boxes, and thus cannot edit /WINNT/system32/drivers/etc/hosts (this is my
own sad state of affairs).

Thus, if such a symlink is created, please note in the documentation that
some users will have to delete the link and manually create their own
/etc/hosts file in order to restore original Cygwin functionality.

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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 11:35:15AM -0400, Zieg, Mark wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 08:48:07AM -0400, Joe Buehler wrote:
> >Paul Johnston wrote:
> >
> >>NT has an equivalent to /etc/hosts, so I think the cygwin install should
> >>create this symbolic link:
> >>
> >>/etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
> >
> >This is a great idea, making allowances for variations in the different
> >versions of Windows, of course.
> 
> Remember that corporate NT users often don't have admin rights to their own
> boxes, and thus cannot edit /WINNT/system32/drivers/etc/hosts (this is my
> own sad state of affairs).
> 
> Thus, if such a symlink is created, please note in the documentation that
> some users will have to delete the link and manually create their own
> /etc/hosts file in order to restore original Cygwin functionality.

Huh?  The /etc/hosts file isn't used at all by Cygwin.  It uses the
same system provided files on all systems (9x/NT) as Winsock does.

If any application in the Cygwin net distro is *explicitely* accessing
/etc/{hosts,network,protocol,services} files, they have to be fixed.

Note that all applications using just the usual network function for
accessing these files are on the safe side.

Corinna

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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Jim]

> Hi,
>
> > >>/etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
> >
> > So, like all great ideas, all that it needs is an actual patch to make
> > it happen.
>
Uhh - what about just /windows/hosts (for those that are non NT based) ?

> Ok, I will have a go at this. As it involves mods to the setup program,
I'm
> going to move the discussion to cygwin-apps.
>
> Paul
>


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RE: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Tackett, Galen]

cgf wrote:

> So, like all great ideas, all that it needs is an actual patch to make it
happen.

Yep, just like interstellar travel, time machines, and toasters that always
get the bread just right on the first try.

(Sorry... I just couldn't resist a little sillines.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:cgf@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:22 AM
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts


On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 08:48:07AM -0400, Joe Buehler wrote:
>Paul Johnston wrote:
>
>>NT has an equivalent to /etc/hosts, so I think the cygwin install should
>>create this symbolic link:
>>
>>/etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
>
>This is a great idea, making allowances for variations in the different
>versions of Windows, of course.

So, like all great ideas, all that it needs is an actual patch to make
it happen.

cgf

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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Warren Young]

news@garydjones.mailshell.com wrote:
> On 09 Sep 2002, Paul Johnston <paj@pajhome.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>  Depending on your setup though,
> editing a file in your favourite Cygwin based editor might give 
> you an odd looking file in the end (some lines with DOS-endings 
> and some with *n*x-endings). 

Vim is smart enough to detect what kind of text file you have and set 
its editing mode to match.  Any other editor worth using behaves the 
same way, but that's just a tautology.  :)


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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Shankar Unni]

news@garydjones.mailshell.com wrote:

> [...] (some lines with DOS-endings and some with *n*x-endings). 
 > I doubt Cygwin would have a problem with that, but I don't
 > really want to test what Windows would do.

Doesn't seem to faze Windows XP, anyway. I converted the file to unix 
line endings and threw in a few ^Ms here and there. Worked fine.

Can't answer for old stacks like Win95 and Win98, but I suspect they 
would also be able to handle this..
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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Paul Johnston]

Hi,

> >>/etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
>
> So, like all great ideas, all that it needs is an actual patch to make
> it happen.

Ok, I will have a go at this. As it involves mods to the setup program, I'm
going to move the discussion to cygwin-apps.

Paul


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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[news]

On 09 Sep 2002, Paul Johnston <paj@pajhome.org.uk> wrote:

> I think the cygwin
> install should create this symbolic link:
> 
> /etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts

I like the idea in principle. Depending on your setup though, 
editing a file in your favourite Cygwin based editor might give 
you an odd looking file in the end (some lines with DOS-endings 
and some with *n*x-endings). I doubt Cygwin would have a problem 
with that, but I don't really want to test what Windows would 
do.

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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Christopher Faylor]

On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 08:48:07AM -0400, Joe Buehler wrote:
>Paul Johnston wrote:
>
>>NT has an equivalent to /etc/hosts, so I think the cygwin install should
>>create this symbolic link:
>>
>>/etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
>
>This is a great idea, making allowances for variations in the different
>versions of Windows, of course.

So, like all great ideas, all that it needs is an actual patch to make
it happen.

cgf

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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Joe Buehler]

Paul Johnston wrote:

> NT has an equivalent to /etc/hosts, so I think the cygwin install should
> create this symbolic link:
> 
> /etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts

This is a great idea, making allowances for variations in the different
versions of Windows, of course.

Joe Buehler




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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Marcos Lorenzo de Santiago]

     > --- Paul Johnston <paj@pajhome.org.uk> wrote:
     > > Hi,
     > > 
     > > NT has an equivalent to /etc/hosts, so I think the cygwin install
     > > should
     > > create this symbolic link:
     > > 
     > > /etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
     > > 
     > > In fact, you could do this to a few other files in that directory,
     > > like
     > > services and protocols. hosts is the only one I commonly edit
     > > though.
     > > 
     > The problem is that location isn't the right place on Win9X/ME, so it
     > ends up setting things wrong for those users.

Well, anyway, does cygwin internal scripts know whether the OS is a
Windows NT/98/ME/2K/XP? If so that's not a problem. I guess cygwin knows
it and therefore could be achieved (if needed).

Cheers,
m4c.


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Re: Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Nicholas Wourms]

--- Paul Johnston <paj@pajhome.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> NT has an equivalent to /etc/hosts, so I think the cygwin install
> should
> create this symbolic link:
> 
> /etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts
> 
> In fact, you could do this to a few other files in that directory,
> like
> services and protocols. hosts is the only one I commonly edit
> though.
> 
The problem is that location isn't the right place on Win9X/ME, so it
ends up setting things wrong for those users.

Cheers,
Nicholas

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Suggestion: /etc/hosts

[Paul Johnston]

Hi,

NT has an equivalent to /etc/hosts, so I think the cygwin install should
create this symbolic link:

/etc/hosts -> ${SYSTEMROOT}/system32/drivers/etc/hosts

In fact, you could do this to a few other files in that directory, like
services and protocols. hosts is the only one I commonly edit though.

Paul


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