From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5312 invoked by alias); 30 Jun 2014 12:44:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 5207 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jun 2014 12:44:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: from nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (HELO nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com) (216.39.62.36) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:43:57 +0000 Received: from [216.39.60.173] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jun 2014 12:43:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.242] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jun 2014 12:43:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jun 2014 12:43:55 -0000 Message-ID: <742648.6649.bm@smtp113.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Yahoo-SMTP: BDVluRmswBBpb4.UU1_zlPhs_ysfXcBVjBNXyWpyS_6pPgE- X-Rocket-Received: from solabel10.tnolan.com (tednolan@74.243.198.236 with plain [98.138.84.52]) by smtp113.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jun 2014 12:43:55 +0000 UTC From: tednolan@bellsouth.net To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: ezmlm problems with yahoo/AT&T senders In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to Soren Hein message dated "Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:25:03 -0000." Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:44:00 -0000 X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2014-06/txt/msg00444.txt.bz2 I've tried reporting this several different ways, apparently into a black hole, so I'll try it here on the front list. I preiodically get messages from ezmlm to the effect Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the cygwin#cygwin.com mailing list. Messages to you from the cygwin mailing list seem to have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce message I received. The referenced attached message is from the Yahoo/AT&T mailer and the key thing is an error message + URL, which apparently ezmlm never passes to anyone responsible: Permanent Failure: 554 REPLY: 554_5.7.9_Message_not_accepted_for_policy_reasons. See_http://postmaster.yahoo.com/errors/postmaster-28.html Checking the supplied URL reveals that the cygwin list does not comply with the sender verification magic that Yahoo wants to see when an email comes from a Yahoo/AT&T address and is to be distributed to an AT&T/Yahoo adress. I have a bellsouth.net address which now falls under Yahoo/AT&T (and I'm sure there are many others on the list in a similar situation). This means that *any* message *to* the cygwin list *from* an AT&T/Yahoo address will not be delivered to me (or any other AT&T/Yahoo user) and will be kicked back, putting us all on ezmlm's naughty list. This is not something I can fix -- it has to be addressed at the mailing list level as noted in the error URL. I apologize for putting this here, but hopefully someone wil now see it. Ted Nolan -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple