From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 93384 invoked by alias); 27 Jan 2020 06:38:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 93370 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jan 2020 06:38:41 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,EXECUTABLE_URI,KAM_EXEURI,LIKELY_SPAM_BODY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.1 spammy=disney, nowadays, installer, prime X-HELO: smtp-out-so.shaw.ca Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (HELO smtp-out-so.shaw.ca) (64.59.136.138) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 06:38:39 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([24.64.172.44]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id vy2eiyuzG17ZDvy2fixC6z; Sun, 26 Jan 2020 23:38:38 -0700 Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Subject: Re: anyone interested in loading a portable drive? To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: From: Brian Inglis Message-ID: <74ef1f18-6d10-4a99-c3d8-76df7ab811c0@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 06:38:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2020-01/txt/msg00245.txt.bz2 On 2020-01-26 21:33, aimedtech wrote: > Okay, this is a complaint. I've spent the past few days trying to download > the Cygwin system and gotten nowhere. I've tried several download > environments, using different protocols, nothing works. > > And this is beyond being a pain, this is getting to be a real problem for > me. No, that's not right -- it is a problem for me, NOW. > > I remember, I downloaded, installed it and used it, this was about a decade > ago. Then, the area for naming the machine download sites would fill in > automatically; Today, no. I chose a couple and tried them, one at a time. > Neither worked > > I'm not sure if this message is to just tell you that your install is very > broken and goodbye or if I'm asking for help. > > I am willing to send someone a USB 1TB drive and pay $50 bucks to load it > and send it back. If that's what I do I want everything. The works. This is an all-volunteer project and mirrors are donated by the server owners. Weekends are busy times for backups and security upgrades on publicly accessible free servers, and if there are problems, support may not be available until the next work day, after serious production issues are dealt with. Similarly for answers and support from here. The world has changed and Cygwin has become larger in the last decade (148GB according to the Mirrors page). You *MUST* download the latest x86/_64 installer from the home page setup-x86/_64.exe links to get the latest active mirrors and use the current key: https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe https://cygwin.com/setup-x86.exe Selection from the latest active mirrors to use is easiest by browsing the linked Mirror Sites page: https://cygwin.com/mirrors.html and you should see if you can recognize nearby sites which are likely to have big servers and fast pipes. You may find your closest site(s) overloaded, slow, and connectivity intermittent, depending on the site ownership, day of week, time of day, network path to you, other users on the site and on your local ISP feeds. Avoid evenings and weekends, when many others nearby are downloading the newest Amazon Prime, Apple+. Disney+, Netflix, etc. series to binge watch, and your ISP is also throttling retail customers, to free up bandwidth for their business customers doing offsite streaming backups. Searching for an unofficial mirror at a nearby local university or (Unix) User Group publicly available on the internet may give you better results. Sometimes the closest mirrors may not be the fastest or most reliable, and ftp sites nowadays are slower, less available and reliable than http/https sites, as web sites get the big bucks, servers, memory, and pipes, but ftp sites may be kept around only as long as nothing goes wrong with their old server. Ping, traceroute, simple adhoc bandwidth and throughput tests will give you an idea of the best performance, and experience will tell you about reliability. Start by downloading only the base packges or upgrading what you have installed, and be patient during postinstall steps, as rebasing all the DLLs, and rebuilding updated pages in the man DB, can take a while with large upgrades or outdated installs. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple