From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from re-prd-fep-047.btinternet.com (mailomta22-re.btinternet.com [213.120.69.115]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 809853852C72 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:45:51 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 809853852C72 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=dronecode.org.uk Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=dronecode.org.uk Received: from re-prd-rgout-002.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net ([10.2.54.5]) by re-prd-fep-047.btinternet.com with ESMTP id <20221121174550.ZJQB20465.re-prd-fep-047.btinternet.com@re-prd-rgout-002.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net>; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:45:50 +0000 Authentication-Results: btinternet.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=jonturney@btinternet.com; bimi=skipped X-SNCR-Rigid: 613A8DE8439E0224 X-Originating-IP: [81.153.98.246] X-OWM-Source-IP: 81.153.98.246 (GB) X-OWM-Env-Sender: jonturney@btinternet.com X-VadeSecure-score: verdict=clean score=0/300, class=clean X-RazorGate-Vade: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvgedrheeigddutdegucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuueftkffvkffujffvgffngfevqffopdfqfgfvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfhfhfgjtgfgsehtkeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeflohhnucfvuhhrnhgvhicuoehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeehkedtjeejheevheegkeduhfefiefhkeetlefhkeffvdetiefhffeuvdefgfdvueenucffohhmrghinhepshhouhhrtggvfigrrhgvrdhorhhgpdgthihgfihinhdrtghomhenucfkphepkedurdduheefrdelkedrvdegieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhephhgvlhhopegludelvddrudeikedruddruddtiegnpdhinhgvthepkedurdduheefrdelkedrvdegiedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjohhnrdhtuhhrnhgvhiesughrohhnvggtohguvgdrohhrghdruhhkpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedvpdhrtghpthhtoheprggurghmseguihhnfihoohguihgvrdhorhhgpdhrtghpthhtoheptgihghifihhnsegthihgfihinhdrtghomh X-RazorGate-Vade-Verdict: clean 0 X-RazorGate-Vade-Classification: clean Received: from [192.168.1.106] (81.153.98.246) by re-prd-rgout-002.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net (5.8.716.04) (authenticated as jonturney@btinternet.com) id 613A8DE8439E0224; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:45:50 +0000 Message-ID: <758f3276-0c54-3ae3-ba54-c890e0e48d2e@dronecode.org.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:45:49 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.0 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: setup (2.923) Content-Language: en-GB To: Adam Dinwoodie , The Cygwin Mailing List References: <3b24439b-2b4e-b392-11f9-c3790b42c827@dronecode.org.uk> From: Jon Turney In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3570.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_SPF_HELO,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NONE,TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On 21/11/2022 16:23, Adam Dinwoodie wrote: > On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 12:46, Jon Turney wrote: >> - Add view modes "Removable" and "Unneeded" (thanks to Christian Franke) >> >> -- "Removable" shows installed packages that were selected, but can now >> be safely removed, as no installed package depends on them >> -- "Unneeded" shows packages which were automatically installed, but can >> now be safely removed, as no installed depends on them > > Thank you, everyone involved in this! I'd been lamenting cygcheck-dep > not getting updated for the new dependency declaration methods, but > noticed these new options when I ran the installer yesterday, and was > very appreciative! > >> - Add Ctrl-I/R/U as keyboard accelerators for >> install/reinstall/uninstall in the package chooser (thanks to Christian >> Franke) > > I am also very grateful for this, too – I'm a keyboard monkey and I > find the current package selection process somewhat tedious – but I'm > also wondering if there's a way to make it more obvious. I think a lot > of folk would benefit from this function who probably aren't reading > these announcements, including all the folk who sign up in future. I > can think of a couple of obvious options, namely adding instructions > in the grey areas above or below the chooser, or adding the shortcuts > in brackets in the package selection drop-downs, but fundamentally I'd > just like to have it suggested somewhere other than the mailing list > archives for future users. Yeah, we went around this a bit on cygwin-apps. Marking these as accelerators in the drop-down menu is apparently problematic in some way I don't recall the details of now (and is usually hidden nowadays unless you opened the menu via a keypress). >> This is not the place for setup feature requests. > > Having probably just broken that rule, can you clarify what _is_ the > place for setup feature requests? Neither > https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/setup.html nor > https://cygwin.com/lists.html seemed to suggest a better option… The intended meaning is that replies to that email are for reporting problems with that release. It's perfectly permissible to start a new email thread with a feature request for setup. Of course, the likely response is "that's an idea, but someone has to do it" :) I'll try to tweak that sentence for clarity in future.