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X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-MailboxType: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-UserPrincipalName: OZL3tfi/NuxxBG6O5GntkDDF2lc8lYgjrtG4cKjkudFOGIyZy9lTFvEKMlG6fn8qdYwh6KxM0fwsmOtowJiesg== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BN6PR04MB0501 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL, NICE_REPLY_A, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 17:50:31 -0000 On 6/20/2022 9:53 AM, Eliot Moss wrote: > Good idea to wait for Corinna.  I did a smidge of research, looking through > the Wikipedia page on the POSIX terminal interface.  It suggests that this > part was largely borrowed from System-V, so that may explain what we see in > newlib.  And looking up the POSIX spec, it says this: > > "Special character on input, which is recognized if the ICANON flag is > set. When received, all the bytes waiting to be read are immediately passed to > the process without waiting for a , and the EOF is discarded. Thus, > if there are no bytes waiting (that is, the EOF occurred at the beginning of a > line), a byte count of zero shall be returned from the read(), representing an > end-of-file indication. If ICANON is set, the EOF character shall be discarded > when processed." > > This suggests that indeed control-D will need to be typed twice before a > blocking read on a terminal with ICANON will appear to be at eof.  I guess we > can consider getchar to be (almost) like a read of size 1, except where read > would return 0, getchar returns -1. > > The quoted text above implies that the second control-D will set the > end-of-file indicator.  So I agree that it looks like the ifndef should be > removed.  And of course, wherever we said control-D, EOF should be implied (it > is normally control-D, but the user can change which character is associated > with the EOF semantics). I would frame the issue slightly differently, since this is not just about terminals; the code we're discussing applies to any file. Suppose EOF has been seen in a call to one of the stdio input functions. Prior to commit 1f8f7e2d, any further calls to those functions would immediately return EOF. Since that commit, however, another attempt is made to read, and the EOF indicator for the file is turned off if input is found. In many cases (e.g., an ordinary disk file), this second read will still return EOF. In other cases (e.g., a terminal), the second read might block if there's still no input available. Ken