* RE: ls and long file names
@ 1999-02-26 2:53 Bernard Dautrevaux
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
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From: Bernard Dautrevaux @ 1999-02-26 2:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Jose I. Cabrera', gnu-win32
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That is purely normal ls behaviour: ls tries to put as many equal length
columns on the screen; the length of the column has some minimum (32
perhaps) but is extended to fit the longest file name in the directory.
So if you have very long fil enames, the column width is set, e.g. to 64
characters, and ls has no space on the current tty to display more than
one (it will need 128 characters-wide window to display 2, but usually
is given an 80-chars one).
HTH,
Bernard
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose I. Cabrera [ mailto:jicman@cinops.xerox.com ]
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 8:02 PM
> To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject: ls and long file names
>
>
> When there is a file with a long name in a directory, the ls
> output defaults to one item per line. i.e.
>
> <13:57:44> <6>ls
> 10jobs.sh
> 1liner
> 3_5_5.xfc
> Add2files
> Addfile.txt
> CPBU_East_and_West_Phone_List_Updated_January_7.doc
> CPBUphonelist.txt
> CPBUphonelist2.txt
> Comm.pl
> Comm.pl.discuss
> Comm_pl-1_8_tar
> Commdoc.txt
> FIXEWOD.PL
> Gazette
> Ivelearned.txt
> MONITO~1.PL
> Macros
> N3217507.xfc
> N3217508.xfc
> N3217508.zip
> N3218063.xfc
> emailbirthdays.pl
> epod
> epodsave.txt
> ewod
> firmware
> fixtopten
> fixtten
> full.exe
> gazette.txt
> gazettes
> gdbx_exe.gz
> getallprov.pl
> getallpsalm.pl
> getfromodouls.p
> quote
> readers
> remote_tar
> rename.p
> save
> sch_gaz
> sch_gaz.odouls
> sendgaz
> sendgaz9.pl
> sendgazette
> sendjob
> sendmail
> sendmail.exe
> sendnote
> sendquest
> sendreq
> setp
> socket.pl
> socketget.p
> swod
> telopt.p
> topten
> trayswitch.prn
> typeg
> usr
> webget.p
> <13:58:10> <7>
>
> while if the files are small, you get:
>
> <13:42:19> <11>ls
> erotlk1298.xls w98-hp5si.prn w981.01.16-990223b.prn
> w98-1-01-16.prn w98-hp5sib.prn w981.01.16-990223c.prn
> w98-1-01-16b.prn w98-hp5sic.prn
> w98-1-01-16c.prn w981.01.16-990223.prn
> <13:44:50> <12>
>
> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I
> tried all kinds of switches and got no different result.
>
> anyone?
>
> thanks,
>
> jose
>
>
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* RE: ls and long file names
1999-02-26 2:53 ls and long file names Bernard Dautrevaux
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
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From: Bernard Dautrevaux @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Jose I. Cabrera', gnu-win32
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That is purely normal ls behaviour: ls tries to put as many equal length
columns on the screen; the length of the column has some minimum (32
perhaps) but is extended to fit the longest file name in the directory.
So if you have very long fil enames, the column width is set, e.g. to 64
characters, and ls has no space on the current tty to display more than
one (it will need 128 characters-wide window to display 2, but usually
is given an 80-chars one).
HTH,
Bernard
--------------------------------------------
Bernard Dautrevaux
Microprocess Ingéniérie
97 bis, rue de Colombes
92400 COURBEVOIE
FRANCE
Tel: +33 (0) 1 47 68 80 80
Fax: +33 (0) 1 47 88 97 85
e-mail: dautrevaux@microprocess.com
b.dautrevaux@usa.net
--------------------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose I. Cabrera [ mailto:jicman@cinops.xerox.com ]
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 8:02 PM
> To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject: ls and long file names
>
>
> When there is a file with a long name in a directory, the ls
> output defaults to one item per line. i.e.
>
> <13:57:44> <6>ls
> 10jobs.sh
> 1liner
> 3_5_5.xfc
> Add2files
> Addfile.txt
> CPBU_East_and_West_Phone_List_Updated_January_7.doc
> CPBUphonelist.txt
> CPBUphonelist2.txt
> Comm.pl
> Comm.pl.discuss
> Comm_pl-1_8_tar
> Commdoc.txt
> FIXEWOD.PL
> Gazette
> Ivelearned.txt
> MONITO~1.PL
> Macros
> N3217507.xfc
> N3217508.xfc
> N3217508.zip
> N3218063.xfc
> emailbirthdays.pl
> epod
> epodsave.txt
> ewod
> firmware
> fixtopten
> fixtten
> full.exe
> gazette.txt
> gazettes
> gdbx_exe.gz
> getallprov.pl
> getallpsalm.pl
> getfromodouls.p
> quote
> readers
> remote_tar
> rename.p
> save
> sch_gaz
> sch_gaz.odouls
> sendgaz
> sendgaz9.pl
> sendgazette
> sendjob
> sendmail
> sendmail.exe
> sendnote
> sendquest
> sendreq
> setp
> socket.pl
> socketget.p
> swod
> telopt.p
> topten
> trayswitch.prn
> typeg
> usr
> webget.p
> <13:58:10> <7>
>
> while if the files are small, you get:
>
> <13:42:19> <11>ls
> erotlk1298.xls w98-hp5si.prn w981.01.16-990223b.prn
> w98-1-01-16.prn w98-hp5sib.prn w981.01.16-990223c.prn
> w98-1-01-16b.prn w98-hp5sic.prn
> w98-1-01-16c.prn w981.01.16-990223.prn
> <13:44:50> <12>
>
> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I
> tried all kinds of switches and got no different result.
>
> anyone?
>
> thanks,
>
> jose
>
>
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* Re: ls and long file names
1999-02-25 11:12 ` Mumit Khan
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Mumit Khan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Mumit Khan @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jose I. Cabrera; +Cc: cygwin
"Jose I. Cabrera" <jicman@cinops.xerox.com> writes:
>
> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all kinds of s
> witches and got no different result.
Sure, just delete the longer filenames ;-) ls tries to make the listing
nice and tidy, and having a long pathname like you do, it's impossible
to get the names lined up in columns.
Regards,
Mumit
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* Re: ls and long file names
1999-02-26 7:18 Jose I. Cabrera
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Jose I. Cabrera
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From: Jose I. Cabrera @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mumit Khan; +Cc: cygwin
Well, I tend to disagree that "...it's impossible to get the names
lined up in columns..."
Thanks for the info.
jose
----- Original Message -----
From: Mumit Khan <khan@xraylith.wisc.EDU>
To: Jose I. Cabrera <jicman@cinops.xerox.com>
Cc: <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: ls and long file names
>"Jose I. Cabrera" <jicman@cinops.xerox.com> writes:
>>
>> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all kinds of s
>> witches and got no different result.
>
>Sure, just delete the longer filenames ;-) ls tries to make the listing
>nice and tidy, and having a long pathname like you do, it's impossible
>to get the names lined up in columns.
>
>Regards,
>Mumit
>
>
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* Re: ls and long file names
1999-02-26 17:18 Jose I. Cabrera
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Jose I. Cabrera
0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jose I. Cabrera @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Heribert Dahms, earnie_boyd; +Cc: cygwin users
Thank you all.
jose
----- Original Message -----
From: Heribert Dahms <heribert_dahms@icon-gmbh.de>
To: 'Jose I. Cabrera' <jicman@cinops.xerox.com>; <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
Cc: cygwin users <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: ls and long file names
>Hi Jose,
>
>please see below!
>
>Bye, Heribert (heribert_dahms@icon-gmbh.de)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jose I. Cabrera [SMTP:jicman@cinops.xerox.com]
>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 16:46
>> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com
>> Cc: cygwin users
>> Subject: Re: ls and long file names
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I agree that this is ls the intended behavior, but I thought that
>> there was a switch that would change this behavior and place
>> them according to file name sizes. Here is an example of VMS:
>>
>> $ dir
>>
>> Directory USER15:[JCABRERA]
>>
>> FILES_20200758.COM;1 FILES_20200758.OUT;1
>> FTPD.LOG;16 GAZ_OUT.TXT;1 JICMAN.DIR;1
>> JIC_SUBJ.COM;14
>> [Heribert] [snip]
>> X.X;1 _ALIASES.TPU$JOURNAL;1
>>
>> Total of 50 files.
>> $
>>
>> as you can see, there are different file name sizes and yet, VMS
>> places
>> them in columns, even though there are short names and long names.
>> I know what you are going to say, "Jose, move to MVS," but, could not
>> we have a switch that would make it this way? It does not have to be
>> the default, just a switch.
>>
>> [Heribert] Hey, X.X is *my* filename! And I like VMS, but want to
>> avoid MVS 8-)
>> VMS defaults to a TABs@20-like, max 4 columns behaviour. BTW, I use:
>> $ sh sym d*
>> DC == "DIRECTORY/NOHE/NOTR/NOTOT/COL=1/WI=FI=55/NOSIZE/DATE"
>> D*IRECT == "DIR/DAT/SIZE"
>> DN == "DIRECTORY/NOHE/NOTR/NOTOT/COL=1/WI=FI=80/NOSIZE/NODATE"
>>
>> I suggest you take the ls source and implement a, hmm, -4 switch...
>>
>> [Heribert] [snip]
>>
>
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* RE: ls and long file names
1999-02-25 14:24 Heribert Dahms
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Heribert Dahms
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From: Heribert Dahms @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Jose I. Cabrera', gnu-win32
Hi Jose,
it's not clear to me what you want!
You can force single column style with ls -1
and multi column with ls -x
according to the HP-UX man page.
Bye, Heribert (heribert_dahms@icon-gmbh.de)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose I. Cabrera [SMTP:jicman@cinops.xerox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 20:02
> To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject: ls and long file names
>
> When there is a file with a long name in a directory, the ls output
> defaults to one item per line. i.e.
>
> <13:57:44> <6>ls
> 10jobs.sh
> 1liner
> 3_5_5.xfc
> Add2files
> Addfile.txt
> CPBU_East_and_West_Phone_List_Updated_January_7.doc
> [Heribert] [snip]
>
> while if the files are small, you get:
>
> <13:42:19> <11>ls
> erotlk1298.xls w98-hp5si.prn w981.01.16-990223b.prn
> [Heribert] [snip]
>
> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all
> kinds of switches and got no different result.
>
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* RE: ls and long file names
1999-02-26 16:04 Heribert Dahms
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Heribert Dahms
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From: Heribert Dahms @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Jose I. Cabrera', earnie_boyd; +Cc: cygwin users
Hi Jose,
please see below!
Bye, Heribert (heribert_dahms@icon-gmbh.de)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose I. Cabrera [SMTP:jicman@cinops.xerox.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 16:46
> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com
> Cc: cygwin users
> Subject: Re: ls and long file names
>
> All,
>
> I agree that this is ls the intended behavior, but I thought that
> there was a switch that would change this behavior and place
> them according to file name sizes. Here is an example of VMS:
>
> $ dir
>
> Directory USER15:[JCABRERA]
>
> FILES_20200758.COM;1 FILES_20200758.OUT;1
> FTPD.LOG;16 GAZ_OUT.TXT;1 JICMAN.DIR;1
> JIC_SUBJ.COM;14
> [Heribert] [snip]
> X.X;1 _ALIASES.TPU$JOURNAL;1
>
> Total of 50 files.
> $
>
> as you can see, there are different file name sizes and yet, VMS
> places
> them in columns, even though there are short names and long names.
> I know what you are going to say, "Jose, move to MVS," but, could not
> we have a switch that would make it this way? It does not have to be
> the default, just a switch.
>
> [Heribert] Hey, X.X is *my* filename! And I like VMS, but want to
> avoid MVS 8-)
> VMS defaults to a TABs@20-like, max 4 columns behaviour. BTW, I use:
> $ sh sym d*
> DC == "DIRECTORY/NOHE/NOTR/NOTOT/COL=1/WI=FI=55/NOSIZE/DATE"
> D*IRECT == "DIR/DAT/SIZE"
> DN == "DIRECTORY/NOHE/NOTR/NOTOT/COL=1/WI=FI=80/NOSIZE/NODATE"
>
> I suggest you take the ls source and implement a, hmm, -4 switch...
>
> [Heribert] [snip]
>
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* ls and long file names
1999-02-25 10:58 Jose I. Cabrera
[not found] ` < 004601be60f1$5fca2260$1226e70d@channels.usa.xerox.com >
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Jose I. Cabrera
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From: Jose I. Cabrera @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
When there is a file with a long name in a directory, the ls output defaults to one item per line. i.e.
<13:57:44> <6>ls
10jobs.sh
1liner
3_5_5.xfc
Add2files
Addfile.txt
CPBU_East_and_West_Phone_List_Updated_January_7.doc
CPBUphonelist.txt
CPBUphonelist2.txt
Comm.pl
Comm.pl.discuss
Comm_pl-1_8_tar
Commdoc.txt
FIXEWOD.PL
Gazette
Ivelearned.txt
MONITO~1.PL
Macros
N3217507.xfc
N3217508.xfc
N3217508.zip
N3218063.xfc
emailbirthdays.pl
epod
epodsave.txt
ewod
firmware
fixtopten
fixtten
full.exe
gazette.txt
gazettes
gdbx_exe.gz
getallprov.pl
getallpsalm.pl
getfromodouls.p
quote
readers
remote_tar
rename.p
save
sch_gaz
sch_gaz.odouls
sendgaz
sendgaz9.pl
sendgazette
sendjob
sendmail
sendmail.exe
sendnote
sendquest
sendreq
setp
socket.pl
socketget.p
swod
telopt.p
topten
trayswitch.prn
typeg
usr
webget.p
<13:58:10> <7>
while if the files are small, you get:
<13:42:19> <11>ls
erotlk1298.xls w98-hp5si.prn w981.01.16-990223b.prn
w98-1-01-16.prn w98-hp5sib.prn w981.01.16-990223c.prn
w98-1-01-16b.prn w98-hp5sic.prn
w98-1-01-16c.prn w981.01.16-990223.prn
<13:44:50> <12>
Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all kinds of switches and got no different result.
anyone?
thanks,
jose
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* Re: ls and long file names
1999-02-25 18:21 Earnie Boyd
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Earnie Boyd
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From: Earnie Boyd @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jose I. Cabrera; +Cc: cygwin users
---"Jose I. Cabrera" <jicman@cinops.xerox.com> wrote:
8<
> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all
kinds of switches and got no different result.
8<
This is the intended behavior. What is it you want fixed? The only
solution I can see is for you to always display one file per line. To
do this you would do `ls -1'. This is a -one not a lower case el.
==
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* Re: ls and long file names
1999-02-26 7:40 Jose I. Cabrera
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Jose I. Cabrera
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From: Jose I. Cabrera @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: earnie_boyd; +Cc: cygwin users
All,
I agree that this is ls the intended behavior, but I thought that
there was a switch that would change this behavior and place
them according to file name sizes. Here is an example of VMS:
$ dir
Directory USER15:[JCABRERA]
FILES_20200758.COM;1 FILES_20200758.OUT;1
FTPD.LOG;16 GAZ_OUT.TXT;1 JICMAN.DIR;1 JIC_SUBJ.COM;14
JIC_SUBJ.COM;13 JIC_SUBJ.COM;12 K.MAI;1 LO.JOU;1
LOGIN.COM;11 LOGIN.COM;10 LOGIN.COM;9 LOGINCOM.SAV;1
MAIL$1FEC834100050098.MAI;1 MAIL$20C80C5A00050098.MAI;1
MAIL$5F92D82100050099.MAI;1 MAIL$84EC0F7100050099.MAI;1
MAIL$9058647A0005009B.MAI;1 MAIL$D99B0E9700050099.MAI;1
MAIL$D9D2796100050099.MAI;1 MAIL$DA04301A00050099.MAI;1
MAIL$DA3A1E5600050099.MAI;1 MAIL$DCC4A43B00050099.MAI;1
MAIL$DCC94E7A00050099.MAI;1 MAIL$F5B2F5170005009B.MAI;1
MAIL.MAI;1 MAIL_20203993_SEND.TMP;1
MAIL_206005A6_SEND.TMP;1 MAIN.TPU$JOURNAL;8 MAIN.TPU$JOURNAL;7
MAIN.TPU$JOURNAL;6 NEW_TXT.TPU$JOURNAL;2
NEW_TXT.TPU$JOURNAL;1 P1.;1 RJEOUT1.TMP;1
RJETMP.TMP;1 SDF.MAI;1 SDFSDF.MAI;1 SENDIT.COM;5
SENDIT.COM;4 SENDIT.COM;3 SIG.SIG;2 SIG.SIG;1
SNATPRINT.LIS;3 SNATPRINT.LIS;2 SNATPRINT.LIS;1 WASTEBASKET.MAI;1
X.X;1 _ALIASES.TPU$JOURNAL;1
Total of 50 files.
$
as you can see, there are different file name sizes and yet, VMS places
them in columns, even though there are short names and long names.
I know what you are going to say, "Jose, move to MVS," but, could not
we have a switch that would make it this way? It does not have to be
the default, just a switch.
Thanks. BTW, I love bash. If I didn't, I would not have written at all.
jose
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From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
To: Jose I. Cabrera <jicman@cinops.xerox.com>
Cc: cygwin users <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: ls and long file names
>---"Jose I. Cabrera" <jicman@cinops.xerox.com> wrote:
>8<
>> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all
>kinds of switches and got no different result.
>8<
>
>This is the intended behavior. What is it you want fixed? The only
>solution I can see is for you to always display one file per line. To
>do this you would do `ls -1'. This is a -one not a lower case el.
>==
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* Re: ls and long file names
@ 1999-02-26 17:18 Jose I. Cabrera
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Jose I. Cabrera
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From: Jose I. Cabrera @ 1999-02-26 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Heribert Dahms, earnie_boyd; +Cc: cygwin users
Thank you all.
jose
----- Original Message -----
From: Heribert Dahms <heribert_dahms@icon-gmbh.de>
To: 'Jose I. Cabrera' <jicman@cinops.xerox.com>; <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
Cc: cygwin users <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: ls and long file names
>Hi Jose,
>
>please see below!
>
>Bye, Heribert (heribert_dahms@icon-gmbh.de)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jose I. Cabrera [SMTP:jicman@cinops.xerox.com]
>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 16:46
>> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com
>> Cc: cygwin users
>> Subject: Re: ls and long file names
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I agree that this is ls the intended behavior, but I thought that
>> there was a switch that would change this behavior and place
>> them according to file name sizes. Here is an example of VMS:
>>
>> $ dir
>>
>> Directory USER15:[JCABRERA]
>>
>> FILES_20200758.COM;1 FILES_20200758.OUT;1
>> FTPD.LOG;16 GAZ_OUT.TXT;1 JICMAN.DIR;1
>> JIC_SUBJ.COM;14
>> [Heribert] [snip]
>> X.X;1 _ALIASES.TPU$JOURNAL;1
>>
>> Total of 50 files.
>> $
>>
>> as you can see, there are different file name sizes and yet, VMS
>> places
>> them in columns, even though there are short names and long names.
>> I know what you are going to say, "Jose, move to MVS," but, could not
>> we have a switch that would make it this way? It does not have to be
>> the default, just a switch.
>>
>> [Heribert] Hey, X.X is *my* filename! And I like VMS, but want to
>> avoid MVS 8-)
>> VMS defaults to a TABs@20-like, max 4 columns behaviour. BTW, I use:
>> $ sh sym d*
>> DC == "DIRECTORY/NOHE/NOTR/NOTOT/COL=1/WI=FI=55/NOSIZE/DATE"
>> D*IRECT == "DIR/DAT/SIZE"
>> DN == "DIRECTORY/NOHE/NOTR/NOTOT/COL=1/WI=FI=80/NOSIZE/NODATE"
>>
>> I suggest you take the ls source and implement a, hmm, -4 switch...
>>
>> [Heribert] [snip]
>>
>
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* RE: ls and long file names
@ 1999-02-26 16:04 Heribert Dahms
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Heribert Dahms
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From: Heribert Dahms @ 1999-02-26 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Jose I. Cabrera', earnie_boyd; +Cc: cygwin users
Hi Jose,
please see below!
Bye, Heribert (heribert_dahms@icon-gmbh.de)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose I. Cabrera [SMTP:jicman@cinops.xerox.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 16:46
> To: earnie_boyd@yahoo.com
> Cc: cygwin users
> Subject: Re: ls and long file names
>
> All,
>
> I agree that this is ls the intended behavior, but I thought that
> there was a switch that would change this behavior and place
> them according to file name sizes. Here is an example of VMS:
>
> $ dir
>
> Directory USER15:[JCABRERA]
>
> FILES_20200758.COM;1 FILES_20200758.OUT;1
> FTPD.LOG;16 GAZ_OUT.TXT;1 JICMAN.DIR;1
> JIC_SUBJ.COM;14
> [Heribert] [snip]
> X.X;1 _ALIASES.TPU$JOURNAL;1
>
> Total of 50 files.
> $
>
> as you can see, there are different file name sizes and yet, VMS
> places
> them in columns, even though there are short names and long names.
> I know what you are going to say, "Jose, move to MVS," but, could not
> we have a switch that would make it this way? It does not have to be
> the default, just a switch.
>
> [Heribert] Hey, X.X is *my* filename! And I like VMS, but want to
> avoid MVS 8-)
> VMS defaults to a TABs@20-like, max 4 columns behaviour. BTW, I use:
> $ sh sym d*
> DC == "DIRECTORY/NOHE/NOTR/NOTOT/COL=1/WI=FI=55/NOSIZE/DATE"
> D*IRECT == "DIR/DAT/SIZE"
> DN == "DIRECTORY/NOHE/NOTR/NOTOT/COL=1/WI=FI=80/NOSIZE/NODATE"
>
> I suggest you take the ls source and implement a, hmm, -4 switch...
>
> [Heribert] [snip]
>
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* Re: ls and long file names
@ 1999-02-26 7:40 Jose I. Cabrera
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Jose I. Cabrera
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From: Jose I. Cabrera @ 1999-02-26 7:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: earnie_boyd; +Cc: cygwin users
All,
I agree that this is ls the intended behavior, but I thought that
there was a switch that would change this behavior and place
them according to file name sizes. Here is an example of VMS:
$ dir
Directory USER15:[JCABRERA]
FILES_20200758.COM;1 FILES_20200758.OUT;1
FTPD.LOG;16 GAZ_OUT.TXT;1 JICMAN.DIR;1 JIC_SUBJ.COM;14
JIC_SUBJ.COM;13 JIC_SUBJ.COM;12 K.MAI;1 LO.JOU;1
LOGIN.COM;11 LOGIN.COM;10 LOGIN.COM;9 LOGINCOM.SAV;1
MAIL$1FEC834100050098.MAI;1 MAIL$20C80C5A00050098.MAI;1
MAIL$5F92D82100050099.MAI;1 MAIL$84EC0F7100050099.MAI;1
MAIL$9058647A0005009B.MAI;1 MAIL$D99B0E9700050099.MAI;1
MAIL$D9D2796100050099.MAI;1 MAIL$DA04301A00050099.MAI;1
MAIL$DA3A1E5600050099.MAI;1 MAIL$DCC4A43B00050099.MAI;1
MAIL$DCC94E7A00050099.MAI;1 MAIL$F5B2F5170005009B.MAI;1
MAIL.MAI;1 MAIL_20203993_SEND.TMP;1
MAIL_206005A6_SEND.TMP;1 MAIN.TPU$JOURNAL;8 MAIN.TPU$JOURNAL;7
MAIN.TPU$JOURNAL;6 NEW_TXT.TPU$JOURNAL;2
NEW_TXT.TPU$JOURNAL;1 P1.;1 RJEOUT1.TMP;1
RJETMP.TMP;1 SDF.MAI;1 SDFSDF.MAI;1 SENDIT.COM;5
SENDIT.COM;4 SENDIT.COM;3 SIG.SIG;2 SIG.SIG;1
SNATPRINT.LIS;3 SNATPRINT.LIS;2 SNATPRINT.LIS;1 WASTEBASKET.MAI;1
X.X;1 _ALIASES.TPU$JOURNAL;1
Total of 50 files.
$
as you can see, there are different file name sizes and yet, VMS places
them in columns, even though there are short names and long names.
I know what you are going to say, "Jose, move to MVS," but, could not
we have a switch that would make it this way? It does not have to be
the default, just a switch.
Thanks. BTW, I love bash. If I didn't, I would not have written at all.
jose
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From: Earnie Boyd <earnie_boyd@yahoo.com>
To: Jose I. Cabrera <jicman@cinops.xerox.com>
Cc: cygwin users <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: ls and long file names
>---"Jose I. Cabrera" <jicman@cinops.xerox.com> wrote:
>8<
>> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all
>kinds of switches and got no different result.
>8<
>
>This is the intended behavior. What is it you want fixed? The only
>solution I can see is for you to always display one file per line. To
>do this you would do `ls -1'. This is a -one not a lower case el.
>==
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* Re: ls and long file names
@ 1999-02-26 7:18 Jose I. Cabrera
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Jose I. Cabrera
0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jose I. Cabrera @ 1999-02-26 7:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mumit Khan; +Cc: cygwin
Well, I tend to disagree that "...it's impossible to get the names
lined up in columns..."
Thanks for the info.
jose
----- Original Message -----
From: Mumit Khan <khan@xraylith.wisc.EDU>
To: Jose I. Cabrera <jicman@cinops.xerox.com>
Cc: <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: ls and long file names
>"Jose I. Cabrera" <jicman@cinops.xerox.com> writes:
>>
>> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all kinds of s
>> witches and got no different result.
>
>Sure, just delete the longer filenames ;-) ls tries to make the listing
>nice and tidy, and having a long pathname like you do, it's impossible
>to get the names lined up in columns.
>
>Regards,
>Mumit
>
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* Re: ls and long file names
@ 1999-02-25 18:21 Earnie Boyd
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Earnie Boyd
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From: Earnie Boyd @ 1999-02-25 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jose I. Cabrera; +Cc: cygwin users
---"Jose I. Cabrera" <jicman@cinops.xerox.com> wrote:
8<
> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all
kinds of switches and got no different result.
8<
This is the intended behavior. What is it you want fixed? The only
solution I can see is for you to always display one file per line. To
do this you would do `ls -1'. This is a -one not a lower case el.
==
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* RE: ls and long file names
@ 1999-02-25 14:24 Heribert Dahms
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Heribert Dahms
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From: Heribert Dahms @ 1999-02-25 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Jose I. Cabrera', gnu-win32
Hi Jose,
it's not clear to me what you want!
You can force single column style with ls -1
and multi column with ls -x
according to the HP-UX man page.
Bye, Heribert (heribert_dahms@icon-gmbh.de)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose I. Cabrera [SMTP:jicman@cinops.xerox.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 20:02
> To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject: ls and long file names
>
> When there is a file with a long name in a directory, the ls output
> defaults to one item per line. i.e.
>
> <13:57:44> <6>ls
> 10jobs.sh
> 1liner
> 3_5_5.xfc
> Add2files
> Addfile.txt
> CPBU_East_and_West_Phone_List_Updated_January_7.doc
> [Heribert] [snip]
>
> while if the files are small, you get:
>
> <13:42:19> <11>ls
> erotlk1298.xls w98-hp5si.prn w981.01.16-990223b.prn
> [Heribert] [snip]
>
> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all
> kinds of switches and got no different result.
>
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* Re: ls and long file names
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@ 1999-02-25 11:12 ` Mumit Khan
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Mumit Khan
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From: Mumit Khan @ 1999-02-25 11:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jose I. Cabrera; +Cc: cygwin
"Jose I. Cabrera" <jicman@cinops.xerox.com> writes:
>
> Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all kinds of s
> witches and got no different result.
Sure, just delete the longer filenames ;-) ls tries to make the listing
nice and tidy, and having a long pathname like you do, it's impossible
to get the names lined up in columns.
Regards,
Mumit
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* ls and long file names
@ 1999-02-25 10:58 Jose I. Cabrera
[not found] ` < 004601be60f1$5fca2260$1226e70d@channels.usa.xerox.com >
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Jose I. Cabrera
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From: Jose I. Cabrera @ 1999-02-25 10:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
When there is a file with a long name in a directory, the ls output defaults to one item per line. i.e.
<13:57:44> <6>ls
10jobs.sh
1liner
3_5_5.xfc
Add2files
Addfile.txt
CPBU_East_and_West_Phone_List_Updated_January_7.doc
CPBUphonelist.txt
CPBUphonelist2.txt
Comm.pl
Comm.pl.discuss
Comm_pl-1_8_tar
Commdoc.txt
FIXEWOD.PL
Gazette
Ivelearned.txt
MONITO~1.PL
Macros
N3217507.xfc
N3217508.xfc
N3217508.zip
N3218063.xfc
emailbirthdays.pl
epod
epodsave.txt
ewod
firmware
fixtopten
fixtten
full.exe
gazette.txt
gazettes
gdbx_exe.gz
getallprov.pl
getallpsalm.pl
getfromodouls.p
quote
readers
remote_tar
rename.p
save
sch_gaz
sch_gaz.odouls
sendgaz
sendgaz9.pl
sendgazette
sendjob
sendmail
sendmail.exe
sendnote
sendquest
sendreq
setp
socket.pl
socketget.p
swod
telopt.p
topten
trayswitch.prn
typeg
usr
webget.p
<13:58:10> <7>
while if the files are small, you get:
<13:42:19> <11>ls
erotlk1298.xls w98-hp5si.prn w981.01.16-990223b.prn
w98-1-01-16.prn w98-hp5sib.prn w981.01.16-990223c.prn
w98-1-01-16b.prn w98-hp5sic.prn
w98-1-01-16c.prn w981.01.16-990223.prn
<13:44:50> <12>
Does anyone have any kind of idea on how to fix this? I tried all kinds of switches and got no different result.
anyone?
thanks,
jose
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