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From: Eliot Moss <moss@cs.umass.edu>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Sv: g++ and c++17 filesystem
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 10:36:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a2c99c-045c-e815-4c03-bab7a89a025b@cs.umass.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000a01d6be5b$3808cad0$a81a6070$@gmail.com>

Ok, first, I admit that I was not familiar with the details of std::filesystem.  However, after 
looking at it, I remain unsurprised that the Cygwin and Mingw versions might be different.  (I would 
also not be surprised if there is a real bug in there.)  The behavior I would _expect_ is that the 
Cygwin version will work using Posix sorts of assumptions.  While a root of C: (for example) _might_ 
work, /cygdrive/c is more normative on Cygwin.  (I put a link to that in Cygwin's / called c, so 
that, for me, /c works.)  Likewise, I would expect the normative path separator to be / not \, and 
an absolute path to start with /.  Windows offers several kinds of symlinks, with varying semantics, 
so the detailed behavior of that would be affected by the settings in the CYGWIN environment variable.

I would expect std::filesystem to present paths to construct paths to present to underlying library 
calls such as open ... and on Cygwin, open uses Posix style paths.

I "get" that you want to write portable programs that use this interface, which is analogous to the 
Java file path classes.  In terms of how this interface works, I would expect it to _claim_ that it 
is Posix, not Windows, because the paths Cygwin supports are Posix style (it _will_ recognize a few 
Windows idioms, but it is correct in not advertising itself as Windows).

So it you want to do Windows-style (but abstracted with this library), I direct you to Mingw.  Each 
has its place.  Cygwin allows one to pretend, pretty successfully though with a few small rough 
edges, that one is on Linux, not Windows.  That is its intent.  Mingw gives you the gcc/gnu 
toolchain and libraries under Windows.

I hope we're not still talking at cross purposes, though that it certainly possible!

Best wishes - EM

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-19 15:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-17 15:15 sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-17 16:45 ` René Berber
2020-11-18  9:00   ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-18 16:24     ` René Berber
2020-11-18 16:31       ` Eliot Moss
2020-11-18 20:46       ` Kristian Ivarsson
2020-11-18 20:56         ` Eliot Moss
2020-11-18 21:18           ` Kristian Ivarsson
2020-11-18 23:47             ` Eliot Moss
2020-11-19  8:10               ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-18 21:45         ` Norton Allen
2020-11-19  0:08         ` Doug Henderson
2020-11-19  6:23           ` Brian Inglis
2020-11-19 10:03         ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-19 15:27           ` Brian Inglis
2020-11-20  9:37             ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-20 15:29               ` Brian Inglis
2020-11-20 16:11                 ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-19 15:36           ` Eliot Moss [this message]
2020-11-20  8:31             ` sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-20 18:28               ` Jonathan Yong
     [not found]                 ` <000601d6c173$aa55d540$ff017fc0$@gmail.com>
2020-11-23 11:09                   ` Sv: " Jonathan Yong
2020-11-24  9:32                     ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-24 10:24                       ` Jonathan Yong
2020-11-24 11:35                         ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-24 12:33                           ` Jonathan Yong
2020-11-24 14:01                             ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-25  2:25                               ` Jonathan Yong
2020-11-24 13:22                       ` Eliot Moss
2020-11-24 14:31                         ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-24 20:06                           ` Ken Brown
2020-11-24 20:39                             ` Eliot Moss
2020-11-25  8:02                               ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-25  8:30                             ` sten.kristian.ivarsson
2020-11-25  0:23                           ` Brian Inglis
2020-11-25  9:00                             ` Sv: " sten.kristian.ivarsson

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