From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtpout2.vodafonemail.de (smtpout2.vodafonemail.de [145.253.239.133]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02BB4383F401 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 05:38:37 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 02BB4383F401 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=nexgo.de Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=nexgo.de Received: from smtp.vodafone.de (smtpa07.fra-mediabeam.com [10.2.0.38]) by smtpout2.vodafonemail.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8089D1216B3 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:38:35 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nexgo.de; s=vfde-smtpout-mb-15sep; t=1623389915; bh=10Zxbm2FHQNO6cFXvcWWyZ+JPDGf5Eet95QzncZSeCI=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=hVPyoK2gPV7zgvwD/NBmeGcfpTShWi+SsoL/LG4HpfuEUzoLo+WRfOX7Viz91RPgk +O71c8omf2bDt3xe3MDp7omfJaY5YbnI0JGOvCuAr8In6ncrrMsYH6FiGIkYZPv7hw WEPYw3bxv+0Ob+mmwghzQbKs+A8zafNoqN44ARAo= Received: from Otto (p54a0c8c7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.160.200.199]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.vodafone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D464140277 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2021 05:38:35 +0000 (UTC) From: ASSI To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Python for Windows reports wrong local time when run under Cygwin on Europe/Moscow TZ References: <02d5b40f-aa35-f56c-5c5c-b10780355e91@SystematicSw.ab.ca> <0fcfeb54-53c5-b83d-bb13-e83a68eed469@cornell.edu> <28d9253d-71f4-c265-2861-9a3b0667799b@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:38:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Ken Brown via Cygwin's message of "Thu, 10 Jun 2021 15:50:12 -0400") Message-ID: <87r1h9vu3s.fsf@Otto.invalid> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate: clean X-purgate-size: 1061 X-purgate-ID: 155817::1623389915-0000067D-D1AE1AD0/0/0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3032.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 05:38:39 -0000 Ken Brown via Cygwin writes: > Can you be more specific? What goes wrong if TZ is not set? I > haven't seen any POSIX or Linux documentation that says it should be > set, and I've just checked on two different Linux distros that it's > not set by default. The scripts in base-files were introduced in 2012 after an explicit request by Corinna: https://sourceware.org/legacy-ml/cygwin-developers/2012-01/msg00042.html Whether any or all of this is still relevant needs to be checked before we turn around and change the default again. You can always change it locally by modifying the scripts so that the defaults from base-files are not used anymore. If you'd generally want to do that I would recommend to create a local package that does all these modifications to make it portable across all your systems and re-installs. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Waldorf MIDI Implementation & additional documentation: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfDocs