From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 97510 invoked by alias); 27 Jan 2020 14:18:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 97363 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jan 2020 14:18:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,EXECUTABLE_URI,KAM_EXEURI,LIKELY_SPAM_BODY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.1 spammy=disney, installer, ISP, isp X-HELO: smtp-out-so.shaw.ca Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (HELO smtp-out-so.shaw.ca) (64.59.136.139) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 14:18:55 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([24.64.172.44]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id w5E4i6dvpRnrKw5E5id7jw; Mon, 27 Jan 2020 07:18:54 -0700 Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Subject: Re: anyone interested in loading a portable drive? To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <74ef1f18-6d10-4a99-c3d8-76df7ab811c0@SystematicSw.ab.ca> <8d391df9-3dd9-9197-0196-4d4edd2b14d8@mail.com> From: Brian Inglis Message-ID: <9416c144-9c27-3690-cb4f-7021bbedf334@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2020 14:18:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8d391df9-3dd9-9197-0196-4d4edd2b14d8@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2020-01/txt/msg00252.txt.bz2 On 2020-01-26 23:45, john doe wrote: > On 1/27/2020 7:38 AM, Brian Inglis wrote: >> On 2020-01-26 21:33, aimedtech wrote: >>> Okay, this is a complaint. I've spent the past few days trying to download >>> the Cygwin system and gotten nowhere. I've tried several download >>> environments, using different protocols, nothing works. >>> >>> And this is beyond being a pain, this is getting to be a real problem for >>> me. No, that's not right -- it is a problem for me, NOW. >>> >>> I remember, I downloaded, installed it and used it, this was about a decade >>> ago. Then, the area for naming the machine download sites would fill in >>> automatically; Today, no. I chose a couple and tried them, one at a time. >>> Neither worked >>> >>> I'm not sure if this message is to just tell you that your install is very >>> broken and goodbye or if I'm asking for help. >>> >>> I am willing to send someone a USB 1TB drive and pay $50 bucks to load it >>> and send it back. If that's what I do I want everything. The works. >> This is an all-volunteer project and mirrors are donated by the server owners. >> >> Weekends are busy times for backups and security upgrades on publicly accessible >> free servers, and if there are problems, support may not be available until the >> next work day, after serious production issues are dealt with. >> >> Similarly for answers and support from here. >> >> The world has changed and Cygwin has become larger in the last decade (148GB >> according to the Mirrors page). >> >> You *MUST* download the latest x86/_64 installer from the home page >> setup-x86/_64.exe links to get the latest active mirrors and use the current key: >> >> https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe >> https://cygwin.com/setup-x86.exe >> >> Selection from the latest active mirrors to use is easiest by browsing the >> linked Mirror Sites page: >> >> https://cygwin.com/mirrors.html >> >> and you should see if you can recognize nearby sites which are likely to have >> big servers and fast pipes. >> >> You may find your closest site(s) overloaded, slow, and connectivity >> intermittent, depending on the site ownership, day of week, time of day, network >> path to you, other users on the site and on your local ISP feeds. >> >> Avoid evenings and weekends, when many others nearby are downloading the newest >> Amazon Prime, Apple+. Disney+, Netflix, etc. series to binge watch, and your ISP >> is also throttling retail customers, to free up bandwidth for their business >> customers doing offsite streaming backups. >> >> Searching for an unofficial mirror at a nearby local university or (Unix) User >> Group publicly available on the internet may give you better results. >> >> Sometimes the closest mirrors may not be the fastest or most reliable, and ftp >> sites nowadays are slower, less available and reliable than http/https sites, as >> web sites get the big bucks, servers, memory, and pipes, but ftp sites may be >> kept around only as long as nothing goes wrong with their old server. >> >> Ping, traceroute, simple adhoc bandwidth and throughput tests will give you an >> idea of the best performance, and experience will tell you about reliability. >> >> Start by downloading only the base packges or upgrading what you have installed, >> and be patient during postinstall steps, as rebasing all the DLLs, and >> rebuilding updated pages in the man DB, can take a while with large upgrades or >> outdated installs. >> > > If you are planning to install Cygwin on many hosts, using apt-cacher-ng > or alike might be of interest to you. That package is a proxy which is limited, and problematic in many environments where it might be of use. Cygwin packages are available for httpd and nginx proxies. As cygwin setup-x86{,_64} already maintains a cache under *-l*, *--local-package-dir* /DIR/ Local package directory syncing updates to that around would suffice. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple