From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25AF93858D31 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 17:59:11 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 25AF93858D31 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=brian.inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([24.64.172.44]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id QahIjMvVq62brQahJjMyW3; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:59:09 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=LKf9vKe9 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:117 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=fjDFcf429ns8VtWUCqQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Two naive questions To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <20200417174902.GA32412@iguana.crashland.org> <169450016.20200417211620@yandex.ru> <20200420172017.GA17660@iguana.crashland.org> From: Brian Inglis Autocrypt: addr=Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEXopx8xYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAnCK0qv/xwUCCZQoA9BHRYpstERrspfT0NkUWQVuoePa0 LkJyaWFuIEluZ2xpcyA8QnJpYW4uSW5nbGlzQFN5c3RlbWF0aWNTdy5hYi5jYT6IlgQTFggA PhYhBMM5/lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsDBQkJZgGABQsJCAcCBhUKCQgLAgQW AgMBAh4BAheAAAoJEB62lxu92I8Y0ioBAI8xrggNxziAVmr+Xm6nnyjoujMqWcq3oEhlYGAO WacZAQDFtdDx2koSVSoOmfaOyRTbIWSf9/Cjai29060fsmdsDLg4BF6KcfMSCisGAQQBl1UB BQEBB0Awv8kHI2PaEgViDqzbnoe8B9KMHoBZLS92HdC7ZPh8HQMBCAeIfgQYFggAJhYhBMM5 /lbU970GBS2bZB62lxu92I8YBQJeinHzAhsMBQkJZgGAAAoJEB62lxu92I8YZwUBAJw/74rF IyaSsGI7ewCdCy88Lce/kdwX7zGwid+f8NZ3AQC/ezTFFi5obXnyMxZJN464nPXiggtT9gN5 RSyTY8X+AQ== Organization: Systematic Software Message-ID: <9d2da84a-61db-ea3e-a70b-9e8b2e42fe4f@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:59:08 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200420172017.GA17660@iguana.crashland.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfMdwNgtyaDI3oz17JccSj+UFJ95uHBd6hfEYZAqKoXRBdBJzn5gFCP4KvtE0x7ktcz3jElS4fBMQKKZH8yuQNowvq96Q35nib6nrdF4x74DcR5QqPy5V fBN8flCk9HIPjr7aw6QCId3J7/HDKaPgF8J4fZVhZu/hQaOx/Jc6ZVAThZ3q0i/C/m+BUIyrsk5eqg== X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 17:59:13 -0000 On 2020-04-20 11:20, Stephen Carrier wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:44:30PM -0600, Brian Inglis wrote: >> On 2020-04-17 12:16, Andrey Repin wrote: >>> Greetings, Stephen Carrier! >>>> I remember having had the same confusion the first few times I initiated >>>> threads. >> >>> When you start a new thread, do not reply to existing threads. >>> It's that simple. >> >> Indeed - proper mail and news readers use References not Subject headers for >> threading when available, so your new topic will be lost under an old thread. > > I think the OP's first question was asking how to effectively join > an existing thread when one is browsing the recent archives and not > subscribed to the list. As the next response and his reply make clear, he was asking about preperly replying after subscribing. > Joining the list after seeing a question one would like to answer > doesn't help, because the message you would like to respond to has > already gone by. > > I think a good solution would be to get the message number from the web > archive and request that a particular message be sent to you. Then you > could respond to that message and join the thread properly. > > However, there doesn't seem to be a way to do that. I used to be notified > how to retrieve messages I had missed (due to bouncing) but the method > did not work. Furthermore, the mailman faq doesn't mention any way to > do this. The new server ml archive does not seem to offer the metadata available on the previous server and archive, and that is true of most archives that do not allow replies: probably a good way to reduce space required by 50-90%, from what I can see. A subscribed user could provide you with the reply References header values. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.