From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 36368 invoked by alias); 7 Dec 2016 21:57:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 36343 invoked by uid 89); 7 Dec 2016 21:57:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=Hx-spam-relays-external:shaw.ca, H*r:shaw.ca, H*RU:shaw.ca, HX-HELO:sk:smtp-ou X-HELO: smtp-out-no.shaw.ca Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (HELO smtp-out-no.shaw.ca) (64.59.134.13) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:57:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([174.0.238.184]) by shaw.ca with SMTP id EkDccAXslcWiHEkDdc5a5n; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 14:57:43 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=JLBLi4Cb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=WqCeCkldcEjBO3QZneQsCg==:117 a=WqCeCkldcEjBO3QZneQsCg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=b4eMD0GmHX_ZvWjD-W0A:9 a=UszGuaEw7c2X1RZh:21 a=IT9GX9XfmMrH7DHw:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Subject: Re: Installer names not meaningful enough References: To: cygwin@cygwin.com Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca From: Brian Inglis Message-ID: <9d6c50f4-3759-0a45-a97c-30b031a906a0@SystematicSw.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 21:57:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfJL6/+OBEh0Y+8IYmSufDljiyvr4SUHiLbs/8gOXIHITmJ445LE9wuUQCnWg70ucmujHn/kCUqtaVhv2kf5Oe4SZQoeoHyq/NWS10efQmlyi6P6MUYxT EXEUJrjpfDEoQ0jEdnWkTBsw0xn2JK+vt9kkOQVPI5e07m+3E4oGG1BRx1LcBdTE0XWxd9u3wRS1Jg== X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-12/txt/msg00072.txt.bz2 On 2016-12-07 14:40, Erik Soderquist wrote: > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Lee Dilkie wrote: >> I'd agree that adding "cygwin" to the setup program would be nice >> but it's certainly not the windows "way", lots of programs use just >> "setup.exe". > > I don't recall "the Windows way" being a goal of Cygwin. > >> Versioning can't be added to the file name because the setup >> program itself isn't versioned, or at least isn't the same version >> as the cygwin you are installing... the cygwin version come from >> the servers... > > Yes, the setup program is versioned, and will complain about being > outdated on its own anytime it sees a setup.ini that reports a newer > version of the setup program exists. > > I've often wondered why the setup program doesn't include its > version number in the name like ever other package does, for > example: openssh-7.3p1-2.tar.xz > > On my own systems, I download the setup program and check its > version, then rename the file myself to include the version number. I > know I would greatly appreciate the setup version number in the file > name, and suspect this could be accomplished without breaking the > existing scripted downloads by having setup.exe and setup_x64.exe be > symlinks to whatever the current version is. Having the version > number of the setup program thus available could also prevent a lot > of duplicate downloads. I know I would look at the version number > before downloading rather than download and then compare to what I > have. Use wget -N to prevent duplicate downloads when the name, date, and size don't change. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple