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* Incomplete installation of subversion
@ 2010-08-10 11:41 David Balažic
  2010-08-10 11:59 ` Andy Koppe
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: David Balažic @ 2010-08-10 11:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Hi!

I have a reasonably up to date cygwin installation (did an update a
week ago or so).
Today I run the latest setup (v2.708). In Pending I saw a few libX
packages and minttty 0.8.1.

Then I selected subversion for install.
On "Next" I got a dialog saying that subversion depended on additional packages.
I clicked... I don't really remember what, I guess it was OK or Yes.

Then it installed subversion and the updates.

But when I started mintty and entered svn, I got this:

$ svn
/usr/bin/svn.exe: error while loading shared libraries: ?: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

I started Setup again, and now under Pending I see:
 - wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to copy paste text from dialogs?
 - crypt
 - libgdm4
 - libopenldap2_3_0
 - libopenssl098
 - libpq5
 - libproxy0
 - minires

So what did I do wrong?

I am waiting with the install of the above packages in case you have a
question about the current state of my system.

Regards,
David

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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-10 11:41 Incomplete installation of subversion David Balažic
@ 2010-08-10 11:59 ` Andy Koppe
  2010-08-11 11:21   ` Andy Koppe
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From: Andy Koppe @ 2010-08-10 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 10 August 2010 12:41, David Balažic wrote:
> I have a reasonably up to date cygwin installation (did an update a
> week ago or so).
> Today I run the latest setup (v2.708). In Pending I saw a few libX
> packages and minttty 0.8.1.
>
> Then I selected subversion for install.
> On "Next" I got a dialog saying that subversion depended on additional packages.
> I clicked... I don't really remember what, I guess it was OK or Yes.
>
> Then it installed subversion and the updates.
>
> But when I started mintty and entered svn, I got this:
>
> $ svn
> /usr/bin/svn.exe: error while loading shared libraries: ?: cannot open
> shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> I started Setup again, and now under Pending I see:
>  - wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to copy paste text from dialogs?
>  - crypt
>  - libgdm4
>  - libopenldap2_3_0
>  - libopenssl098
>  - libpq5
>  - libproxy0
>  - minires
>
> So what did I do wrong?

Nothing. It's a bug in the resolver behind the "Unmet dependencies"
page: it doesn't add indirect dependencies. This is fixed in CVS, to
be rolled out soon.

> I am waiting with the install of the above packages in case you have a
> question about the current state of my system.

Thanks very much, but hopefully we've got this one cornered already.

Andy

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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-10 11:59 ` Andy Koppe
@ 2010-08-11 11:21   ` Andy Koppe
  2010-08-11 20:55     ` Andrey Repin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Andy Koppe @ 2010-08-11 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 10 August 2010 12:59, Andy Koppe wrote:
> On 10 August 2010 12:41, David Balažic wrote:
>> I have a reasonably up to date cygwin installation (did an update a
>> week ago or so).
>> Today I run the latest setup (v2.708). In Pending I saw a few libX
>> packages and minttty 0.8.1.
>>
>> Then I selected subversion for install.
>> On "Next" I got a dialog saying that subversion depended on additional packages.
>> I clicked... I don't really remember what, I guess it was OK or Yes.
>>
>> Then it installed subversion and the updates.
>>
>> But when I started mintty and entered svn, I got this:
>>
>> $ svn
>> /usr/bin/svn.exe: error while loading shared libraries: ?: cannot open
>> shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> I started Setup again, and now under Pending I see:
>>  - wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to copy paste text from dialogs?
>>  - crypt
>>  - libgdm4
>>  - libopenldap2_3_0
>>  - libopenssl098
>>  - libpq5
>>  - libproxy0
>>  - minires
>>
>> So what did I do wrong?
>
> Nothing. It's a bug in the resolver behind the "Unmet dependencies"
> page: it doesn't add indirect dependencies. This is fixed in CVS, to
> be rolled out soon.

Setup.exe 2.712 with a fix for this and a few additional tweaks to the
"Unmet dependencies" page has been uploaded to http://cygwin.com.

Andy

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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-11 11:21   ` Andy Koppe
@ 2010-08-11 20:55     ` Andrey Repin
  2010-08-11 20:58       ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
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From: Andrey Repin @ 2010-08-11 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andy Koppe, cygwin

Greetings, Andy Koppe!

> Setup.exe 2.712 with a fix for this and a few additional tweaks to the
> "Unmet dependencies" page has been uploaded to http://cygwin.com.

Can't download it - server not sending file size, causing download to abort.


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Sorry for my terrible english...


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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-11 20:55     ` Andrey Repin
@ 2010-08-11 20:58       ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
  2010-08-12  7:05         ` Andrey Repin
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From: Larry Hall (Cygwin) @ 2010-08-11 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 8/11/2010 4:51 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:
> Greetings, Andy Koppe!
>
>> Setup.exe 2.712 with a fix for this and a few additional tweaks to the
>> "Unmet dependencies" page has been uploaded to http://cygwin.com.
>
> Can't download it - server not sending file size, causing download to abort.

Works fine for me from here.  <http://cygwin.com/setup.exe>

Sounds like something is getting in the way.  Proxy?

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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-11 20:58       ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
@ 2010-08-12  7:05         ` Andrey Repin
  2010-08-12  8:04           ` Csaba Raduly
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From: Andrey Repin @ 2010-08-12  7:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Larry Hall (Cygwin)

Greetings, Larry Hall (Cygwin)!

> On 8/11/2010 4:51 PM, Andrey Repin wrote:
>> Greetings, Andy Koppe!
>>
>>> Setup.exe 2.712 with a fix for this and a few additional tweaks to the
>>> "Unmet dependencies" page has been uploaded to http://cygwin.com.
>>
>> Can't download it - server not sending file size, causing download to abort.

> Works fine for me from here.  <http://cygwin.com/setup.exe>

> Sounds like something is getting in the way.  Proxy?

<stdout>:curl -iI -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip" -s -- "http://cygwin.com/setup.exe"
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)
Last-Modified: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:28:21 GMT
ETag: "18e01b8-a7413-9f101340"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Encoding: gzip
Cache-Control: max-age=0
Expires: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
Content-Type: application/octet-stream


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Sorry for my terrible english...


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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-12  7:05         ` Andrey Repin
@ 2010-08-12  8:04           ` Csaba Raduly
  2010-08-12 13:30             ` Andrey Repin
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From: Csaba Raduly @ 2010-08-12  8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrey Repin

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Andrey Repin  wrote:
(snip)
> <stdout>:curl -iI -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip" -s -- "http://cygwin.com/setup.exe"
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
> Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)
> Last-Modified: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:28:21 GMT
> ETag: "18e01b8-a7413-9f101340"
> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> Vary: Accept-Encoding
> Content-Encoding: gzip
> Cache-Control: max-age=0
> Expires: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
> Content-Type: application/octet-stream

Works for me with wget:

$ wget -d http://cygwin.com/setup.exe
DEBUG output created by Wget 1.11.4 on cygwin.

--2010-08-12 10:01:42--  http://cygwin.com/setup.exe
Resolving proxy.....
Caching proxy.....
Connecting to proxy.......|:8080... connected.
Created socket 3.
Releasing 0x00dc09b8 (new refcount 1).

---request begin---
GET http://cygwin.com/setup.exe HTTP/1.0
User-Agent: Wget/1.11.4
Accept: */*
Host: cygwin.com

---request end---
Proxy request sent, awaiting response...
---response begin---
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:01:43 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)
Last-Modified: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:28:21 GMT
ETag: "18e01b8-a7413-9f101340"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Cache-Control: max-age=0
Expires: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:01:43 GMT
Content-Type: application/octet-stream
Content-Length: 685075
Connection: close
Age: 0

---response end---
200 OK
Length: 685075 (669K) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `setup.exe'

Note the Content-Length header

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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-12  8:04           ` Csaba Raduly
@ 2010-08-12 13:30             ` Andrey Repin
  2010-08-12 13:35               ` Corinna Vinschen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Andrey Repin @ 2010-08-12 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Csaba Raduly, cygwin

Greetings, Csaba Raduly!

> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Andrey Repin  wrote:
> (snip)
>> <stdout>:curl -iI -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip" -s -- "http://cygwin.com/setup.exe"
>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
>> Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)
>> Last-Modified: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:28:21 GMT
>> ETag: "18e01b8-a7413-9f101340"
>> Accept-Ranges: bytes
>> Vary: Accept-Encoding
>> Content-Encoding: gzip
>> Cache-Control: max-age=0
>> Expires: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
>> Content-Type: application/octet-stream

> Works for me with wget:

Of course. It's just you can't launch it after wget - file don't have rights
to execute it.

> Note the Content-Length header

I noted.
Look again at headers sent to server.
However, I can tell my download manager to not request compressed data, and it
will work, but why should I, when it's clearly an error at server end?


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Sorry for my terrible english...


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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-12 13:30             ` Andrey Repin
@ 2010-08-12 13:35               ` Corinna Vinschen
  2010-08-13 10:30                 ` Andrey Repin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2010-08-12 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On Aug 12 17:27, Andrey Repin wrote:
> Greetings, Csaba Raduly!
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Andrey Repin  wrote:
> > (snip)
> >> <stdout>:curl -iI -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip" -s -- "http://cygwin.com/setup.exe"
> >> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> >> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
> >> Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)
> >> Last-Modified: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:28:21 GMT
> >> ETag: "18e01b8-a7413-9f101340"
> >> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> >> Vary: Accept-Encoding
> >> Content-Encoding: gzip
> >> Cache-Control: max-age=0
> >> Expires: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
> >> Content-Type: application/octet-stream
> 
> > Works for me with wget:
> 
> Of course. It's just you can't launch it after wget - file don't have rights
> to execute it.

chmod +x ?


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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-12 13:35               ` Corinna Vinschen
@ 2010-08-13 10:30                 ` Andrey Repin
  2010-08-13 15:44                   ` Phil Betts
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From: Andrey Repin @ 2010-08-13 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Corinna Vinschen

Greetings, Corinna Vinschen!

>> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Andrey Repin  wrote:
>> > (snip)
>> >> <stdout>:curl -iI -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip" -s -- "http://cygwin.com/setup.exe"
>> >> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>> >> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
>> >> Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)
>> >> Last-Modified: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:28:21 GMT
>> >> ETag: "18e01b8-a7413-9f101340"
>> >> Accept-Ranges: bytes
>> >> Vary: Accept-Encoding
>> >> Content-Encoding: gzip
>> >> Cache-Control: max-age=0
>> >> Expires: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
>> >> Content-Type: application/octet-stream
>> 
>> > Works for me with wget:
>> 
>> Of course. It's just you can't launch it after wget - file don't have rights
>> to execute it.

> chmod +x ?

Indeed, yet again, it's not the point of my question.
I have download manager processing downloads from my web browser.
It's quite enough for me. When server behave correctly.


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Sorry for my terrible english...


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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-13 10:30                 ` Andrey Repin
@ 2010-08-13 15:44                   ` Phil Betts
  2010-08-13 18:00                     ` Andrey Repin
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From: Phil Betts @ 2010-08-13 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 13 August 2010 11:27, Andrey Repin wrote:
> Greetings, Corinna Vinschen!
>
>>> > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Andrey Repin  wrote:
>>> > (snip)
>>> >> <stdout>:curl -iI -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip" -s -- "http://cygwin.com/setup.exe"
>>> >> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>> >> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
>>> >> Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)
>>> >> Last-Modified: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:28:21 GMT
>>> >> ETag: "18e01b8-a7413-9f101340"
>>> >> Accept-Ranges: bytes
>>> >> Vary: Accept-Encoding
>>> >> Content-Encoding: gzip
>>> >> Cache-Control: max-age=0
>>> >> Expires: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
>>> >> Content-Type: application/octet-stream
>>>
>>> > Works for me with wget:
>>>
>>> Of course. It's just you can't launch it after wget - file don't have rights
>>> to execute it.
>
>> chmod +x ?
>
> Indeed, yet again, it's not the point of my question.
> I have download manager processing downloads from my web browser.
> It's quite enough for me. When server behave correctly.

There's nothing wrong (in this regard) with the server.  See
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html

| In HTTP, it SHOULD be sent whenever the message's length can be
| determined prior to being transferred

You forced it to use gzip encoding, which is often a streaming
process, and in general a server won't know in advance how long the
content will be.

Remove the -H (and -I) and curl works just fine (and the content is
shorter than the gzipped version).

In fact, curl works just fine even with the -H option, as long as you
remove the -I, and remember to gunzip the contents.

You had the choice of:
a) criticizing the set-up of one of the web's largest and most reliable
   download sites or
b) pausing to consider whether perhaps you'd missed something in your
   HTTP class
I think perhaps you made the wrong choice.


Phil

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>  Andrey Repin (anrdaemon@freemail.ru) 13.08.2010, <14:26>

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* Re: Incomplete installation of subversion
  2010-08-13 15:44                   ` Phil Betts
@ 2010-08-13 18:00                     ` Andrey Repin
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From: Andrey Repin @ 2010-08-13 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Phil Betts, cygwin

Greetings, Phil Betts!

>>>> >> <stdout>:curl -iI -H "Accept-Encoding: gzip" -s -- "http://cygwin.com/setup.exe"
>>>> >> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>> >> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
>>>> >> Server: Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat)
>>>> >> Last-Modified: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:28:21 GMT
>>>> >> ETag: "18e01b8-a7413-9f101340"
>>>> >> Accept-Ranges: bytes
>>>> >> Vary: Accept-Encoding
>>>> >> Content-Encoding: gzip
>>>> >> Cache-Control: max-age=0
>>>> >> Expires: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:59:40 GMT
>>>> >> Content-Type: application/octet-stream
>>>>
>>>> > Works for me with wget:
>>>>
>>>> Of course. It's just you can't launch it after wget - file don't have rights
>>>> to execute it.
>>
>>> chmod +x ?
>>
>> Indeed, yet again, it's not the point of my question.
>> I have download manager processing downloads from my web browser.
>> It's quite enough for me. When server behave correctly.

> There's nothing wrong (in this regard) with the server.  See
> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec14.html

> | In HTTP, it SHOULD be sent whenever the message's length can be
> | determined prior to being transferred

RFC 2119 is my most loved document. :)
I know the meaning of these words, and as my experience over fifteen years
suggest, the proper Content-Length header for downloadable content is more
common across the internet. Your site is only third in these years that don't
know what it's doing. And I don't really care about it's size or respect
someone else put into it. I do respect it highly, trust me, else i'd not
bother reporting issues with it.

> You forced it to use gzip encoding,

I *suggested*, not forced. And since server accepted suggestion, I expect it
to have proper headers in response.

> which is often a streaming process, and in general a server won't know in
> advance how long the content will be.

Not for downloadable content, again. The HTML page transfer is often a stream,
yes (not all of the server-side processors have ability to pack the output,
and not all of the site owners choose to use this ability, even if it present,
due to considerable CPU usage increase).
For downloadable content, the size is known beforehand in most cases.

> Remove the -H (and -I) and curl works just fine (and the content is
> shorter than the gzipped version).

I know, that's how I've discovered the issue.

> In fact, curl works just fine even with the -H option, as long as you
> remove the -I, and remember to gunzip the contents.

curl, yes, I know that... Ah well, let's round up the discussion, it's leading
to nowhere, it seems.

> You had the choice of:
> a) criticizing the set-up of one of the web's largest and most reliable
>    download sites or
> b) pausing to consider whether perhaps you'd missed something in your
>    HTTP class
> I think perhaps you made the wrong choice.


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Sorry for my terrible english...


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