* RE: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
@ 1999-02-09 2:37 Simon Fear
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Simon Fear
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Simon Fear @ 1999-02-09 2:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Simon Kissane'; +Cc: 'gnu-win32@cygnus.com'
I never thought I would find myself extolling the virtues of a MS
product, but using Outlook you can set a rule to search the (whole)
header for the string 'cygnus' which has caught everything sent so far
...
Simon F
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Kissane [ mailto:jilba@tig.com.au ]
Sent: 09 February 1999 10:28
To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
Subject: Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
"David M. Smith" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Until recently all the mail from this group was filtered on the
> "Sender:" field to a specific pseudo newsgroup by my mail / news
> program. About a week ago all the traffic started appearing in my
> general mailbox, hiding less frequent personal stuff (I read the list
> stuff in chunks when I have the time, not when it arrives). None of
> the mail has a "Sender:" field and the mail seems to be routed via
various
> personal aliases for the list server in the "CC:" field. I have tried
> to construct a new filtering rule but there are too many permutations.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this change and does anyone know why it has
just
> started? How do I send questions like this to the list administrator?
I've noticed the same problem... its really annoying me. But until I got
this message, I thought they'd just changed all the messages to be CCed
to cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com...
If what you say is true, this is going to be real annoying...
might as well unsubscribe...
> Regards,
> David
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>
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* RE: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
1999-02-09 2:37 [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed? Simon Fear
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Simon Fear
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Simon Fear @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Simon Kissane'; +Cc: 'gnu-win32@cygnus.com'
I never thought I would find myself extolling the virtues of a MS
product, but using Outlook you can set a rule to search the (whole)
header for the string 'cygnus' which has caught everything sent so far
...
Simon F
-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Kissane [ mailto:jilba@tig.com.au ]
Sent: 09 February 1999 10:28
To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
Subject: Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
"David M. Smith" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Until recently all the mail from this group was filtered on the
> "Sender:" field to a specific pseudo newsgroup by my mail / news
> program. About a week ago all the traffic started appearing in my
> general mailbox, hiding less frequent personal stuff (I read the list
> stuff in chunks when I have the time, not when it arrives). None of
> the mail has a "Sender:" field and the mail seems to be routed via
various
> personal aliases for the list server in the "CC:" field. I have tried
> to construct a new filtering rule but there are too many permutations.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this change and does anyone know why it has
just
> started? How do I send questions like this to the list administrator?
I've noticed the same problem... its really annoying me. But until I got
this message, I thought they'd just changed all the messages to be CCed
to cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com...
If what you say is true, this is going to be real annoying...
might as well unsubscribe...
> Regards,
> David
> --
> David M. Smith
>
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* RE: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
@ 1999-02-10 7:03 Oelke, Dan
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Oelke, Dan
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From: Oelke, Dan @ 1999-02-10 7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
Oh - if it were only a matter of having to compile up a mailer - I'd be
in heaven. But, we only have an Exchange server for company email, and
everyone expects you to send/receive Outlook style calendar things as
well as Word attachments. You'd swear that people had never heard of
just using straight ASCII..... <sigh>
Hence my need to get a separate IMAP/POP account outside the company so
that I can get a real mailer and filtering capabilities, etc.....
Dan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen [SMTP:jan@magna-carta.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 3:21 AM
> To: doelke@opticalsolutions.com
> Cc: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
>
> On Tuesday, 9 February 1999, doelke@opticalsolutions.com writes:
>
> [..]
>
> > As for Outlook scanning the entire header - not Outlook 97
> > that I am using on NT. It's filtering capabilities suck.
> > I really need to find me a Unix home on the net someplace
> > that I can connect via IMAP to.......
>
> There are various usix mailers that'll compile+work on NT
> (with cygnus' gnu-windows package).
> When I started this new job, my only option was Outlook97,
> which almost drove me mad. It has silly bugs, almost every
> preset is at the wrong value by default, and you can only
> read your mail in a proportional font (afaik).
>
> Now i'm using (n)mh, with pop/smtp (not local sendmail) and
> slocal filtering (haven't got mh-e got to work, though).
> (Guess what, you can filter on strings in the header fields
> too, just like with ms's great program. Amazing, no?)
>
> Jan.
>
> Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> | GNU LilyPond - The music
> typesetter
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien/ | http://www.lilypond.org/
>
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* RE: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
1999-02-10 7:03 Oelke, Dan
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Oelke, Dan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Oelke, Dan @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
Oh - if it were only a matter of having to compile up a mailer - I'd be
in heaven. But, we only have an Exchange server for company email, and
everyone expects you to send/receive Outlook style calendar things as
well as Word attachments. You'd swear that people had never heard of
just using straight ASCII..... <sigh>
Hence my need to get a separate IMAP/POP account outside the company so
that I can get a real mailer and filtering capabilities, etc.....
Dan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen [SMTP:jan@magna-carta.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 3:21 AM
> To: doelke@opticalsolutions.com
> Cc: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
>
> On Tuesday, 9 February 1999, doelke@opticalsolutions.com writes:
>
> [..]
>
> > As for Outlook scanning the entire header - not Outlook 97
> > that I am using on NT. It's filtering capabilities suck.
> > I really need to find me a Unix home on the net someplace
> > that I can connect via IMAP to.......
>
> There are various usix mailers that'll compile+work on NT
> (with cygnus' gnu-windows package).
> When I started this new job, my only option was Outlook97,
> which almost drove me mad. It has silly bugs, almost every
> preset is at the wrong value by default, and you can only
> read your mail in a proportional font (afaik).
>
> Now i'm using (n)mh, with pop/smtp (not local sendmail) and
> slocal filtering (haven't got mh-e got to work, though).
> (Guess what, you can filter on strings in the header fields
> too, just like with ms's great program. Amazing, no?)
>
> Jan.
>
> Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> | GNU LilyPond - The music
> typesetter
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien/ | http://www.lilypond.org/
>
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* RE: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
@ 1999-02-09 7:11 Oelke, Dan
[not found] ` < C59D5C0A3D3FD21192BA00A0C9DDB6A8012EA8@bemidji >
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Oelke, Dan @ 1999-02-09 7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
A list management program must put in a Sender field to
really be RFC-822 compliant. And, mail delivery systems
must use that field for handling bounces. Unfortunately,
CCmail and Exchange gateways are very often do not use
the Sender field. <sigh> but that is another whole battle.
Can someone at cygnus who has control over the new
list management software please configure it to put in
a Sender: field. If nothing else, a formail filter can put
one in for you quite nicely, but I am guessing that this
new software package you are using should be able to
do it. If you want - I can quote page and section of 822
that requires it. God knows I've done that to enough
postmasters for CCmail systems ;-)
As for Outlook scanning the entire header - not Outlook 97
that I am using on NT. It's filtering capabilities suck.
I really need to find me a Unix home on the net someplace
that I can connect via IMAP to.......
Thanks,
Dan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David M. Smith [SMTP:david.smith@home-free.demon.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 7:02 AM
> To: gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
>
> In article < 36C01829.DD20B1F2@upf.es >, Walter Garcia-Fontes
> <wgarcia@upf.es> writes
> >The change is of course due to the fact that they have changed the
> >listserver. I check now for "sourceware.cygnus.com" in the To: and
> CC:
> >fields and filter the mail as well as before (using procmail). You
> still
> >have to keep your old rules since some people keep sending to
> >gnu-win32@cygnus.com (also check this in To: and CC:).
> >
> >Including a Sender: field may be useful, though, so if people at
> Cygnus
> >could program the listserver to include a Sender: or Owner: field,
> >filtering the mail would be easier.
>
> Someone kindly forwarded me the announcement that this was going to
> happen. I looked through my list database and I had not received it
> directly! I have not attached it as I am sure most of you will have
> seen it.
>
> The new list server does seem to put "Sender:" in the header of some
> messages, but I am definitely getting stuff without it. As I said
> these
> messages seem to have custom aliases in the "CC:" field. I have
> modified my rules to suit the new list software and will keep
> monitoring
> the stray ones for a suitable pattern.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Regards,
> David
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>
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* [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
@ 1999-02-09 2:05 David M. Smith
1999-02-09 2:28 ` Simon Kissane
1999-02-28 23:02 ` David M. Smith
0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: David M. Smith @ 1999-02-09 2:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
Hi,
Until recently all the mail from this group was filtered on the
"Sender:" field to a specific pseudo newsgroup by my mail / news
program. About a week ago all the traffic started appearing in my
general mailbox, hiding less frequent personal stuff (I read the list
stuff in chunks when I have the time, not when it arrives). None of the
mail has a "Sender:" field and the mail seems to be routed via various
personal aliases for the list server in the "CC:" field. I have tried
to construct a new filtering rule but there are too many permutations.
Has anyone else noticed this change and does anyone know why it has just
started? How do I send questions like this to the list administrator?
Regards,
David
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* Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
1999-02-09 2:05 David M. Smith
@ 1999-02-09 2:28 ` Simon Kissane
1999-02-09 3:11 ` Walter Garcia-Fontes
` (2 more replies)
1999-02-28 23:02 ` David M. Smith
1 sibling, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Simon Kissane @ 1999-02-09 2:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
"David M. Smith" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Until recently all the mail from this group was filtered on the
> "Sender:" field to a specific pseudo newsgroup by my mail / news
> program. About a week ago all the traffic started appearing in my
> general mailbox, hiding less frequent personal stuff (I read the list
> stuff in chunks when I have the time, not when it arrives). None of
> the mail has a "Sender:" field and the mail seems to be routed via various
> personal aliases for the list server in the "CC:" field. I have tried
> to construct a new filtering rule but there are too many permutations.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this change and does anyone know why it has just
> started? How do I send questions like this to the list administrator?
I've noticed the same problem... its really annoying me. But until I got
this message, I thought they'd just changed all the messages to be CCed
to cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com...
If what you say is true, this is going to be real annoying...
might as well unsubscribe...
> Regards,
> David
> --
> David M. Smith
>
> --
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* Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
1999-02-09 2:28 ` Simon Kissane
@ 1999-02-09 3:11 ` Walter Garcia-Fontes
[not found] ` < 36C01829.DD20B1F2@upf.es >
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Walter Garcia-Fontes
[not found] ` < 36C00DCD.AA3BCA88@tig.com.au >
1999-02-28 23:02 ` Simon Kissane
2 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Walter Garcia-Fontes @ 1999-02-09 3:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Simon Kissane; +Cc: gnu-win32
The change is of course due to the fact that they have changed the
listserver. I check now for "sourceware.cygnus.com" in the To: and CC:
fields and filter the mail as well as before (using procmail). You still
have to keep your old rules since some people keep sending to
gnu-win32@cygnus.com (also check this in To: and CC:).
Including a Sender: field may be useful, though, so if people at Cygnus
could program the listserver to include a Sender: or Owner: field,
filtering the mail would be easier.
Yours,
Walter Garcia-Fontes
Barcelona.
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* Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
[not found] ` < 36C01829.DD20B1F2@upf.es >
@ 1999-02-09 5:54 ` David M. Smith
1999-02-28 23:02 ` David M. Smith
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: David M. Smith @ 1999-02-09 5:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
In article < 36C01829.DD20B1F2@upf.es >, Walter Garcia-Fontes
<wgarcia@upf.es> writes
>The change is of course due to the fact that they have changed the
>listserver. I check now for "sourceware.cygnus.com" in the To: and CC:
>fields and filter the mail as well as before (using procmail). You still
>have to keep your old rules since some people keep sending to
>gnu-win32@cygnus.com (also check this in To: and CC:).
>
>Including a Sender: field may be useful, though, so if people at Cygnus
>could program the listserver to include a Sender: or Owner: field,
>filtering the mail would be easier.
Someone kindly forwarded me the announcement that this was going to
happen. I looked through my list database and I had not received it
directly! I have not attached it as I am sure most of you will have
seen it.
The new list server does seem to put "Sender:" in the header of some
messages, but I am definitely getting stuff without it. As I said these
messages seem to have custom aliases in the "CC:" field. I have
modified my rules to suit the new list software and will keep monitoring
the stray ones for a suitable pattern.
Thanks for the help.
Regards,
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* Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
1999-02-09 5:54 ` David M. Smith
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` David M. Smith
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: David M. Smith @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
In article < 36C01829.DD20B1F2@upf.es >, Walter Garcia-Fontes
<wgarcia@upf.es> writes
>The change is of course due to the fact that they have changed the
>listserver. I check now for "sourceware.cygnus.com" in the To: and CC:
>fields and filter the mail as well as before (using procmail). You still
>have to keep your old rules since some people keep sending to
>gnu-win32@cygnus.com (also check this in To: and CC:).
>
>Including a Sender: field may be useful, though, so if people at Cygnus
>could program the listserver to include a Sender: or Owner: field,
>filtering the mail would be easier.
Someone kindly forwarded me the announcement that this was going to
happen. I looked through my list database and I had not received it
directly! I have not attached it as I am sure most of you will have
seen it.
The new list server does seem to put "Sender:" in the header of some
messages, but I am definitely getting stuff without it. As I said these
messages seem to have custom aliases in the "CC:" field. I have
modified my rules to suit the new list software and will keep monitoring
the stray ones for a suitable pattern.
Thanks for the help.
Regards,
David
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* Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
1999-02-09 3:11 ` Walter Garcia-Fontes
[not found] ` < 36C01829.DD20B1F2@upf.es >
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Walter Garcia-Fontes
1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Walter Garcia-Fontes @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Simon Kissane; +Cc: gnu-win32
The change is of course due to the fact that they have changed the
listserver. I check now for "sourceware.cygnus.com" in the To: and CC:
fields and filter the mail as well as before (using procmail). You still
have to keep your old rules since some people keep sending to
gnu-win32@cygnus.com (also check this in To: and CC:).
Including a Sender: field may be useful, though, so if people at Cygnus
could program the listserver to include a Sender: or Owner: field,
filtering the mail would be easier.
Yours,
Walter Garcia-Fontes
Barcelona.
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* Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
[not found] ` < 36C00DCD.AA3BCA88@tig.com.au >
@ 1999-02-09 8:25 ` Chris Savage
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Chris Savage @ 1999-02-09 8:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Simon Kissane; +Cc: cygwin
On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:28:29 +1100, Simon Kissane wrote:
>"David M. Smith" wrote:
>> Has anyone else noticed this change and does anyone know why it has just
>> started? How do I send questions like this to the list administrator?
>I've noticed the same problem... its really annoying me. But until I got
>this message, I thought they'd just changed all the messages to be CCed
>to cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com...
>
>If what you say is true, this is going to be real annoying...
>might as well unsubscribe...
Good luck. I've tried twice emailing
cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com and once to the old
majordomo. Still getting the usual traffic but some from gnuwin32 some
from cygwin and I don't want any from either.
======================================================================
Chris Savage Standing in the supermarket,
Godstone, Surrey, UK Shouting at the customers
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* Re: [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
1999-02-09 2:28 ` Simon Kissane
1999-02-09 3:11 ` Walter Garcia-Fontes
[not found] ` < 36C00DCD.AA3BCA88@tig.com.au >
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` Simon Kissane
2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Simon Kissane @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
"David M. Smith" wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Until recently all the mail from this group was filtered on the
> "Sender:" field to a specific pseudo newsgroup by my mail / news
> program. About a week ago all the traffic started appearing in my
> general mailbox, hiding less frequent personal stuff (I read the list
> stuff in chunks when I have the time, not when it arrives). None of
> the mail has a "Sender:" field and the mail seems to be routed via various
> personal aliases for the list server in the "CC:" field. I have tried
> to construct a new filtering rule but there are too many permutations.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this change and does anyone know why it has just
> started? How do I send questions like this to the list administrator?
I've noticed the same problem... its really annoying me. But until I got
this message, I thought they'd just changed all the messages to be CCed
to cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com...
If what you say is true, this is going to be real annoying...
might as well unsubscribe...
> Regards,
> David
> --
> David M. Smith
>
> --
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* [Q:] Has Mail Delivery Changed?
1999-02-09 2:05 David M. Smith
1999-02-09 2:28 ` Simon Kissane
@ 1999-02-28 23:02 ` David M. Smith
1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: David M. Smith @ 1999-02-28 23:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnu-win32
Hi,
Until recently all the mail from this group was filtered on the
"Sender:" field to a specific pseudo newsgroup by my mail / news
program. About a week ago all the traffic started appearing in my
general mailbox, hiding less frequent personal stuff (I read the list
stuff in chunks when I have the time, not when it arrives). None of the
mail has a "Sender:" field and the mail seems to be routed via various
personal aliases for the list server in the "CC:" field. I have tried
to construct a new filtering rule but there are too many permutations.
Has anyone else noticed this change and does anyone know why it has just
started? How do I send questions like this to the list administrator?
Regards,
David
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