mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Andy Koppe]

On 25 May 2011 19:05, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>> How do you get mintty to see Liberation Mono? I downloaded the family
>>> from
>>> redhat, installed it on my w7-x64 machine, made sure it was set to
>>> 'show,'
>>> and started a fresh mintty, but it still can't find the font.
>>
>> Works for me, on w7-x64. Make sure the font shows up in the Fonts
>> control panel and that it isn't hidden, i.e. not appearing greyed out.
>> There's a 'Show' button along the top of the panel in case it is.
>
> I tried to say before that I have done that (I saw the closed bug about this
> and made sure to follow the instructions there). Unchecking that setting
> about language-specific hiding made a whole bunch of other (presumably
> Asian) fonts show up in mintty, but still no Liberation Mono.

I actually wasn't talking about that option, but the abilily to
show/hide each font separately. But it doesn't sound like that's the
issue anyway.

> The font is officially installed, officially showing, and usable by just
> about everything except mintty. Most apps (like Word) picked it up
> immediately.

Right, I'm afraid that leaves me stumped, given it's fine here. Do you
fancy messing with the mintty source code to see which flag on
ChooseFont() is excluding that font? It's in select_font() in
winctrls.c. I guess CF_FIXEDPITCHONLY is the prime candidate.

Andy

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Re: mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Ryan Johnson]

On 25/05/2011 3:48 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
> On 25 May 2011 19:05, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>>> How do you get mintty to see Liberation Mono? I downloaded the family
>>>> from
>>>> redhat, installed it on my w7-x64 machine, made sure it was set to
>>>> 'show,'
>>>> and started a fresh mintty, but it still can't find the font.
>>> Works for me, on w7-x64. Make sure the font shows up in the Fonts
>>> control panel and that it isn't hidden, i.e. not appearing greyed out.
>>> There's a 'Show' button along the top of the panel in case it is.
>> I tried to say before that I have done that (I saw the closed bug about this
>> and made sure to follow the instructions there). Unchecking that setting
>> about language-specific hiding made a whole bunch of other (presumably
>> Asian) fonts show up in mintty, but still no Liberation Mono.
> I actually wasn't talking about that option, but the abilily to
> show/hide each font separately. But it doesn't sound like that's the
> issue anyway.
>
>> The font is officially installed, officially showing, and usable by just
>> about everything except mintty. Most apps (like Word) picked it up
>> immediately.
> Right, I'm afraid that leaves me stumped, given it's fine here. Do you
> fancy messing with the mintty source code to see which flag on
> ChooseFont() is excluding that font? It's in select_font() in
> winctrls.c. I guess CF_FIXEDPITCHONLY is the prime candidate.
Removing CF_FIXEDPITCHONLY indeed allows the font to show (and a whole 
pile of non fixed-pitch friends). Apparently the font version I 
downloaded (liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721) doesn't mark itself as 
fixed-pitch?

When I select liberation mono, ChooseFont populates the LOGFONT with 
lfPitchAndFamily=0x32. MSDN says:
> The two low-order bits specify the pitch of the font and can be one of 
> the following values.
>
>     DEFAULT_PITCH
>     FIXED_PITCH
>     VARIABLE_PITCH

Sure enough, grep-find over /usr/include/w32api shows:
> wingdi.h:380:#define VARIABLE_PITCH 2

I guess somebody needs to file a bug with fedorahosted.org, but I didn't 
see an obvious way to request an account with them. Do you have one by 
chance?

Ryan


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Re: mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Andy Koppe]

On 25 May 2011 22:00, Ryan Johnson wrote:
> On 25/05/2011 3:48 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>
>> On 25 May 2011 19:05, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you get mintty to see Liberation Mono? I downloaded the family
>>>>> from
>>>>> redhat, installed it on my w7-x64 machine, made sure it was set to
>>>>> 'show,'
>>>>> and started a fresh mintty, but it still can't find the font.
>>>>
>>>> Works for me, on w7-x64. Make sure the font shows up in the Fonts
>>>> control panel and that it isn't hidden, i.e. not appearing greyed out.
>>>> There's a 'Show' button along the top of the panel in case it is.
>>>
>>> I tried to say before that I have done that (I saw the closed bug about
>>> this
>>> and made sure to follow the instructions there). Unchecking that setting
>>> about language-specific hiding made a whole bunch of other (presumably
>>> Asian) fonts show up in mintty, but still no Liberation Mono.
>>
>> I actually wasn't talking about that option, but the abilily to
>> show/hide each font separately. But it doesn't sound like that's the
>> issue anyway.
>>
>>> The font is officially installed, officially showing, and usable by just
>>> about everything except mintty. Most apps (like Word) picked it up
>>> immediately.
>>
>> Right, I'm afraid that leaves me stumped, given it's fine here. Do you
>> fancy messing with the mintty source code to see which flag on
>> ChooseFont() is excluding that font? It's in select_font() in
>> winctrls.c. I guess CF_FIXEDPITCHONLY is the prime candidate.
>
> Removing CF_FIXEDPITCHONLY indeed allows the font to show (and a whole pile
> of non fixed-pitch friends). Apparently the font version I downloaded
> (liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721) doesn't mark itself as fixed-pitch?
>
> When I select liberation mono, ChooseFont populates the LOGFONT with
> lfPitchAndFamily=0x32. MSDN says:
>>
>> The two low-order bits specify the pitch of the font and can be one of the
>> following values.
>>
>>    DEFAULT_PITCH
>>    FIXED_PITCH
>>    VARIABLE_PITCH
>
> Sure enough, grep-find over /usr/include/w32api shows:
>>
>> wingdi.h:380:#define VARIABLE_PITCH 2

Thanks very much for investigating.

> I guess somebody needs to file a bug with fedorahosted.org, but I didn't see
> an obvious way to request an account with them. Do you have one by chance?

Nope, sorry.

Clicking at the first hopeful-looking Google result for "Liberation
Mono", I'd downloaded it from a site called dafont.com. Apparently I
picked up an old version without that problem: 1.04.

Andy

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Re: mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Corinna Vinschen]

On May 26 06:08, Andy Koppe wrote:
> On 25 May 2011 22:00, Ryan Johnson wrote:
> > On 25/05/2011 3:48 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
> > I guess somebody needs to file a bug with fedorahosted.org, but I didn't see
> > an obvious way to request an account with them. Do you have one by chance?
> 
> Nope, sorry.
> 
> Clicking at the first hopeful-looking Google result for "Liberation
> Mono", I'd downloaded it from a site called dafont.com. Apparently I
> picked up an old version without that problem: 1.04.

I installed and use 1.06.0.20100721-3 from Fedora 14 without problems.


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Re: mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Charles Wilson]

On 5/26/2011 2:09 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On May 26 06:08, Andy Koppe wrote:
>> On 25 May 2011 22:00, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>> On 25/05/2011 3:48 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>> I guess somebody needs to file a bug with fedorahosted.org, but I didn't see
>>> an obvious way to request an account with them. Do you have one by chance?
>>
>> Nope, sorry.
>>
>> Clicking at the first hopeful-looking Google result for "Liberation
>> Mono", I'd downloaded it from a site called dafont.com. Apparently I
>> picked up an old version without that problem: 1.04.
> 
> I installed and use 1.06.0.20100721-3 from Fedora 14 without problems.

Ah, but I installed liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721.tar.gz from
https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/, and *DID* see the problem.
That is, after installation, Liberation Mono did not show up in mintty's
font selection window.

I'm running Vista natively (no VM), but I haven't rebooted since
installing the font (if that makes a difference). Double clicking the
font itself shows that it is version 1.06.

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Re: mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[KHMan]

On 5/26/2011 8:09 PM, Charles Wilson wrote:
> On 5/26/2011 2:09 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> On May 26 06:08, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>> On 25 May 2011 22:00, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 25/05/2011 3:48 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>>> I guess somebody needs to file a bug with fedorahosted.org, but I didn't see
>>>> an obvious way to request an account with them. Do you have one by chance?
>>>
>>> Nope, sorry.
>>>
>>> Clicking at the first hopeful-looking Google result for "Liberation
>>> Mono", I'd downloaded it from a site called dafont.com. Apparently I
>>> picked up an old version without that problem: 1.04.
>>
>> I installed and use 1.06.0.20100721-3 from Fedora 14 without problems.
>
> Ah, but I installed liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721.tar.gz from
> https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/, and *DID* see the problem.
> That is, after installation, Liberation Mono did not show up in mintty's
> font selection window.

Here is a data point for 1.05 (albeit for an out-of-date setup):
mintty-0.9.6-1.tar.bz2 on XP SP3
liberation-fonts-ttf-1.05.2.20091227.tar.gz

A text metrics dumper reported Liberation Mono's lfPitchAndFamily 
as 0x32, same as what Ryan reported for version 1.06.

> I'm running Vista natively (no VM), but I haven't rebooted since
> installing the font (if that makes a difference). Double clicking the
> font itself shows that it is version 1.06.

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Re: mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Corinna Vinschen]

On May 26 08:09, Charles Wilson wrote:
> On 5/26/2011 2:09 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> > On May 26 06:08, Andy Koppe wrote:
> >> On 25 May 2011 22:00, Ryan Johnson wrote:
> >>> On 25/05/2011 3:48 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
> >>> I guess somebody needs to file a bug with fedorahosted.org, but I didn't see
> >>> an obvious way to request an account with them. Do you have one by chance?
> >>
> >> Nope, sorry.
> >>
> >> Clicking at the first hopeful-looking Google result for "Liberation
> >> Mono", I'd downloaded it from a site called dafont.com. Apparently I
> >> picked up an old version without that problem: 1.04.
> > 
> > I installed and use 1.06.0.20100721-3 from Fedora 14 without problems.
> 
> Ah, but I installed liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721.tar.gz from
> https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/, and *DID* see the problem.
> That is, after installation, Liberation Mono did not show up in mintty's
> font selection window.

That's interesting.  I just hacked a simple test application which
calls ChooseFont.  The Liberation Mono font from F14 returns 0x31
in the LOGFONT lfPitchAndFamily member, so it's marked as fixed font.

The liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721.tar.gz file from
https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/ returns 0x32, so it's marked
as variable font.  This is certainly a packaging bug.

FYI, I reported this as a packaging bug upstream:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707973


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Re: mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Ryan Johnson]

On 26/05/2011 9:19 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On May 26 08:09, Charles Wilson wrote:
>> On 5/26/2011 2:09 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>> On May 26 06:08, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>>> On 25 May 2011 22:00, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>>>>> On 25/05/2011 3:48 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
>>>>> I guess somebody needs to file a bug with fedorahosted.org, but I didn't see
>>>>> an obvious way to request an account with them. Do you have one by chance?
>>>> Nope, sorry.
>>>>
>>>> Clicking at the first hopeful-looking Google result for "Liberation
>>>> Mono", I'd downloaded it from a site called dafont.com. Apparently I
>>>> picked up an old version without that problem: 1.04.
>>> I installed and use 1.06.0.20100721-3 from Fedora 14 without problems.
>> Ah, but I installed liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721.tar.gz from
>> https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/, and *DID* see the problem.
>> That is, after installation, Liberation Mono did not show up in mintty's
>> font selection window.
> That's interesting.  I just hacked a simple test application which
> calls ChooseFont.  The Liberation Mono font from F14 returns 0x31
> in the LOGFONT lfPitchAndFamily member, so it's marked as fixed font.
>
> The liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721.tar.gz file from
> https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/ returns 0x32, so it's marked
> as variable font.  This is certainly a packaging bug.
>
> FYI, I reported this as a packaging bug upstream:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707973
Thanks!

BTW, is there an easy way to get the F14 version of the font if I don't 
have an F14 machine handy? Or, alternatively, is there an easy way to 
hack the .ttf files so they correctly claim to be fixed-pitch?

Ryan


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Re: mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Corinna Vinschen]

On May 26 09:42, Ryan Johnson wrote:
> On 26/05/2011 9:19 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >On May 26 08:09, Charles Wilson wrote:
> >>On 5/26/2011 2:09 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >>>On May 26 06:08, Andy Koppe wrote:
> >>>>On 25 May 2011 22:00, Ryan Johnson wrote:
> >>>>>On 25/05/2011 3:48 PM, Andy Koppe wrote:
> >>>>>I guess somebody needs to file a bug with fedorahosted.org, but I didn't see
> >>>>>an obvious way to request an account with them. Do you have one by chance?
> >>>>Nope, sorry.
> >>>>
> >>>>Clicking at the first hopeful-looking Google result for "Liberation
> >>>>Mono", I'd downloaded it from a site called dafont.com. Apparently I
> >>>>picked up an old version without that problem: 1.04.
> >>>I installed and use 1.06.0.20100721-3 from Fedora 14 without problems.
> >>Ah, but I installed liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721.tar.gz from
> >>https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/, and *DID* see the problem.
> >>That is, after installation, Liberation Mono did not show up in mintty's
> >>font selection window.
> >That's interesting.  I just hacked a simple test application which
> >calls ChooseFont.  The Liberation Mono font from F14 returns 0x31
> >in the LOGFONT lfPitchAndFamily member, so it's marked as fixed font.
> >
> >The liberation-fonts-ttf-1.06.0.20100721.tar.gz file from
> >https://fedorahosted.org/liberation-fonts/ returns 0x32, so it's marked
> >as variable font.  This is certainly a packaging bug.
> >
> >FYI, I reported this as a packaging bug upstream:
> >
> >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=707973
> Thanks!
> 
> BTW, is there an easy way to get the F14 version of the font 

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=liberation-mono-fonts


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Re: mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Charles Wilson]

On 5/26/2011 9:46 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On May 26 09:42, Ryan Johnson wrote:
>> BTW, is there an easy way to get the F14 version of the font 
> 
> http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=liberation-mono-fonts

Yep, and then once you have the rpm, you can do this on cygwin:

rpm2cpio liberation-mono-fonts-1.06.0.20100721-3.fc14.noarch.rpm |\
	unxz |\
	cpio -i --make-directories

(the fc14 rpm package xz-compresses the internal cpio archive; this is
new...)

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mintty fonts (was: Re: setup and mintty)

[Andy Koppe]

On 26 May 2011 02:42, Charles Wilson wrote:
> http://cygutils.fruitbat.org/mintty-font-test/
>
> Ok, I redid the screenshots, but this time I made sure to cat the
> xgraphics file again after changig the font.

Thanks very much for putting in all that effort, and congratulations
to test winner DejaVu Sans Mono. :)

>  And, you can see the G0/G1
> VT100 line drawing modes, for the less-complete fonts, are getting the
> ASCII fallbacks.  Except for Terminus, for some reason.

I guess it maps codepoints it doesn't support to an empty glyph
instead of leaving them undefined, thereby preventing substitution.
Dishonourable mentions also for Envy Code R, Inconsolata, and
Liberation Mono for having empty default glyphs instead of the usual
box that at least shows that something is amiss.

Andy

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