From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13115 invoked by alias); 12 Nov 2014 17:55:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 13010 invoked by uid 89); 12 Nov 2014 17:55:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com Received: from mail-bn1bon0097.outbound.protection.outlook.com (HELO na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) (157.56.111.97) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:55:40 +0000 Received: from BY2PR01CA0041.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.255.242.31) by CY1PR0101MB0873.prod.exchangelabs.com (25.160.139.152) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.16.15; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:55:31 +0000 Received: from BL2FFO11FD053.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c09::124) by BY2PR01CA0041.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:2c76::31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.16.15 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:55:31 +0000 Received: from mail.bsnconnect.com (65.52.44.158) by BL2FFO11FD053.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.173.161.181) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.6.13 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:55:30 +0000 Received: from 046-CH1MPN1-042.046d.mgd.msft.net ([169.254.2.119]) by 046-CH1MMR1-002.046d.mgd.msft.net ([165.216.20.14]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.002; Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:55:26 +0000 From: "Habermann, David (D)" To: "cygwin@cygwin.com" Subject: RE: RFC: 1.7.33 problem with user's home directory Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:55:00 -0000 Message-ID: References: <20141110205216.GJ2782@calimero.vinschen.de> <0B8D23F7-0258-472D-BF38-860402FD3CDC@etr-usa.com> <20141111101821.GO2782@calimero.vinschen.de> <20141111111437.GB28012@calimero.vinschen.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OrganizationHeadersPreserved: 046-CH1MMR1-002.046d.mgd.msft.net X-EOPAttributedMessage: 0 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:65.52.44.158;CTRY:US;IPV:NLI;EFV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(428002)(5423002)(189002)(199003)(44976005)(2656002)(33656002)(6806004)(19580395003)(106466001)(69596002)(81156004)(68736004)(95666004)(64706001)(86146001)(2351001)(107046002)(84676001)(87936001)(47776003)(20776003)(106116001)(92566001)(92726001)(107886001)(105586002)(86362001)(97756001)(551544002)(46102003)(101416001)(46406003)(54356999)(76176999)(77096003)(50986999)(97736003)(2501002)(104016003)(31966008)(62966003)(450100001)(77156002)(93886004)(22756005)(99396003)(120916001)(110136001)(21056001)(22746005)(23726002)(55846006)(4396001)(50466002)(79686002)(460985004)(134885004);DIR:OUT;SFP:1101;SCL:1;SRVR:CY1PR0101MB0873;H:mail.bsnconnect.com;FPR:;MLV:sfv;PTR:InfoDomainNonexistent;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; X-CrossPremisesHeadersPromoted: BL2FFO11FD053.protection.gbl X-CrossPremisesHeadersFiltered: BL2FFO11FD053.protection.gbl X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:; X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR0101MB0873; X-Forefront-PRVS: 03932714EB Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: dow.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is 65.52.44.158) smtp.mailfrom=DAHabermann@dow.com; X-OriginatorOrg: dow.com X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2014-11/txt/msg00274.txt.bz2 >> I also like having everything stored under one main directory (c:\cygwin= ) for ease of backup > Why would you back up all of c:\cygwin? Most of it is downloaded from th= e Internet, and this is easily > reinstalled from your cached download. (I'm assuming you keep setup.exe = and its download tree on a=20 > network drive somewhere.) I do something similar to you, and the backup isn't the big issue (although= I do have MANY locally compiled programs here). C:\Users is backed up by = the corporation, so I either have to duplicate the backup or do multiple re= coveries from different backup systems to get it all back...that is why I p= refer c:\cygwin\home My starting point for backup on Unix boxes is to exclude everything except = /etc, /home and /usr/local. Then maybe add a few choice things under /var.= Everything else can be reinstalled. >> and ease of identification of all cygwin-involved files for our virus an= d our application=20 >> whitelisting systems. > Do you really have executables in $HOME/bin that won't run unless whiteli= sted? Does your security=20 > software actually ban programs in %HOMEPATH%? In our corporate environment, ALL programs (exe, dll, bat, shells and numer= ous others) on ALL PATHS must be on a corporate-enforced whitelist before t= hey will run at all. Typically even new versions must be whitelisted, alth= ough I've been able to negotiate a folder-and-workstation-specific blanket = approval. I'd like to suggest that we be sensitive to application whitelis= ting systems, as many corporations are moving in that direction (as it near= ly eliminates virus problems altogether)....and yes, working in such an env= ironment is a true PITA. Also, in general I simply don't like mixing my corporate files (Office soft= ware, etc.) with my cygwin files. They are unrelated and so I like to keep= them separate. Perhaps it is a personal preference, but it is an option I= wouldn't want to lose....it would probably force me back to using the pass= wd file instead of the db. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple