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From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Cc: Brian.Inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca
Subject: Re: Why does -std=c++11 hide certain function calls
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 14:07:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH8yC8=rGUHcHEKx21rNu2SiwpH9inr7uWFe-fXdVkg+LSC7zA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJn6YFDfNZdr=r+MbNQcRsPyEf8K0-=SXN13Qt5p-m9t=u24Bw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 2:45 AM, John Selbie <jselbie@gmail.com> wrote:
>> For Unixy builds, just don't specify -std. Only specify -std if you want
> to ensure that builds will work with earlier standards, compilers, or
> libraries, or for -std=c* without any special language or library features,
> in which case you may also want to add -pedantic or more restrictive
> options.
>
> Ahhhh…. that was my mistake.  I had erroneously assumed that not specifying
> -std would result in the oldest version of C++.  A quick check:
>
>     $ g++ foo.cpp -c -dM -E  | grep cplus
>     #define __cplusplus 201402L
>
> I was compiling with C++ 14 the whole time.  And it appears that when -std
> is used, the GNU defines are taken out, which ultimately influence how
> POSIX_VISIBLE Is defined within <features.h>.

By default GCC uses a -std=gnu++NN, not -std=c++NN. So you are getting
mostly the latest C++ but it is GNU's flavor with non-standard things
like Variable Length Arrays (VLA's).

> I'm not sure if I agree that -std should hide the functions from unix
> headers. (tldr: unix headers are explicitly outside the c++ standard, so
> the moment they are included, you might as well assume the developer wants
> it all...)

Cygwin and Newlib conflate options in unexpected ways.

I think they are making incorrect leaps about options. For example if
you want Posix you may not want a GCC extension like VLA's. I doubt it
will change, though. You just have to work around it.

Jeff

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-06 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-05  5:56 John Selbie
2018-09-05 18:46 ` Hans-Bernhard Bröker
2018-09-05 19:36   ` John Selbie
2018-09-05 20:41     ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-06  0:14       ` Doug Henderson
2018-09-06  6:45       ` John Selbie
2018-09-06  9:18         ` Csaba Raduly
2018-09-06 14:07         ` Jeffrey Walton [this message]

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