From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vs1-xe41.google.com (mail-vs1-xe41.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e41]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A448396E415 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 21:01:27 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 4A448396E415 Received: by mail-vs1-xe41.google.com with SMTP id 62so12626941vsi.2 for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:01:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=/OQ8xhOp88uygoMmE9ujG4LHH1spTc2+cAWSJLdhBIs=; b=QaTcEqp+C727kCziAmC7JHCR0J1uUI5LGCGdMzO+VCnt2vSxi2T4OEGha9BTNPYiCJ Bjl+TeSEhP0M2enZhGJBQ5mBb+v40tPjIXOkmWbCmbQ7pn9hi5sjUsyXkGE0S6aJQEjL +Abno88ygiPVwQJWMA59TKFq5zJdYe4krQMEjx/EkWOj6GsCjpvO1oQRqJJGk95zedVc v3A8ubbmnDX65dU3lZLY8q98JjNkN7I+HLIzfURKh1igHIelrgu494QWsjgRXKy4KoxG wdRFmsiAi0U5FfUOYdoco22/DkqMxwd2kICSATaakMVmGaWi7jE/C1we4UyWdmsrybIs 7hqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530uRnP/Wnojt441iLsLRw1avvq4Q7p8juBfQfK3HsPJdcahRzVV rF8mGGMNScwawc+13BXpAoYeSwB5EoKKx5g3pgFd6+yh4uQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxfiFc2W9wyJz3bz7P3Mf8UIdI+vN9aczym3Yw2pQ90phzxCMTPwNo39ERqBpGFIAAes3NHLthOU+gPB5/3Puo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:2008:: with SMTP id p8mr2478399vsr.183.1590526885302; Tue, 26 May 2020 14:01:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0466e890-2d9b-4407-de5f-2786b7f33c88@towo.net> <629488e8-4921-9ea9-7783-3fa77c8de8e3@towo.net> <4ea077c6-c7dc-699f-dc0e-ee8bee421819@SystematicSw.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: <4ea077c6-c7dc-699f-dc0e-ee8bee421819@SystematicSw.ab.ca> From: Maarten Hoes Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 23:00:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: mintty 3.1.6 To: cygwin X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, KAM_NUMSUBJECT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 21:01:28 -0000 On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:43 PM Brian Inglis > On 2020-05-26 13:16, Maarten Hoes via Cygwin wrote: > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 7:36 PM Thomas Wolff wrote: > >> and please remember not to "top-post" if you respond there] > > [not aimed at you specifically, but ] > > Owwwh, for the love of ***, can 'we' be at least a little more lenient > > about this? I fully realize that people have their clear preferences > here, > > but [like the 'indent by spaces or tabs' discussion]: > > The eighties called, and they want they're discussion back. > > [Please trim email addresses from bodies so they do not appear in > archives!] > > Outlook TOFU email posting style is manageable for a one-on-one personal > email > thread, but it's a mess when you have posters providing minimal > information in > each response to requests for more info, from multiple volunteer > respondents who > would like to understand enough to help, or multiple subthreads with > followups > in different directions. > > Some maintainers are extremely busy with limited time to either respond > here, or > upgrade or diagnose and fix problems with packages, so just won't respond > to > TOFU, posters who provide insufficient information, or think there is a > company > or employees providing Cygwin products and support, rather than all being > volunteers, and who expect or demand immediate "mystical" support in > response to > a message like "something broke and we think it might be Cygwin". > > Others here will try to pry enough information from posters to point them > in a > useful direction, or provide enough comprehensible information in a format > that > busy maintainers can quickly read and address an issue with a package. > > Hi, (I honestly did not mean to hijack this thread, but unintentionally seem to have done so anyway, sorry for that). Although I fully understand all of these points (like but not limited to [unrealistically] expecting there to be fully paid support personal responding to posts like 'cygwin does not wrk! please fix asap!)' My only remark was about; does it really matter if: top posters do : this is my reaction > this was the original post or: > this was the original post this is my reaction That's all folks. - Maarten