From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 34797 invoked by alias); 25 May 2016 16:09:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 34784 invoked by uid 89); 25 May 2016 16:09:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=Regardless, develops, H*MI:sk:CANnLRd, staff X-HELO: mail-it0-f47.google.com Received: from mail-it0-f47.google.com (HELO mail-it0-f47.google.com) (209.85.214.47) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES128-GCM-SHA256 encrypted) ESMTPS; Wed, 25 May 2016 16:09:18 +0000 Received: by mail-it0-f47.google.com with SMTP id l63so34944220ita.1 for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 09:09:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=aEsF5DjvQaZgFHxhJTOmUc6xHwTmV2B3bPi9GNq1SHc=; b=JULGD7Y3jTtMGQ2DSF8moGip2auv6T9z2vKvVMBVtzuEK4hglSWl6yV2Sbb6xRQQ82 FpEG7RX2WcW+5H17X6Ek/8NkyKXSWZOmCXWXgChveAnwjPpZ3xdk9kI2JN/yLBPzMtsi xdrHK4KNNcMdyRpARsNDZMMFlFgXqAXfSb+s57mCJaRhxpuVuKKNkfD3YJRuu4jrTtDB RnCbGWRkxZieeM0BO7SfCIjiBO48OiOV5BxQD1Vv9u2UnoLs7fMMD/RXDmuw/t95tKtS oJMaRexU/H8Dodv/v6zclG9h7wAjJPzDMUe/tfjxFzYx7GvBFy+fj/u7TBWmCbyQ2SoR 4GtA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJIdI/NZaUX+TYbFoK81v+VRdquEzOOCzdcRM5pKIf2ue7zraZ8KOPE1yW0NgNWC1wT8Kot3Pl+jGvyQg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.36.55.13 with SMTP id r13mr4644069itr.73.1464192556750; Wed, 25 May 2016 09:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.19.71 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2016 09:09:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <538382235.210794.1464156496492.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <538382235.210794.1464156496492.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <538382235.210794.1464156496492.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 09:30:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: changes in 32-bit Cygwin OpenGL causing crashes? From: Stephen John Smoogen To: lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk, cygwin@cygwin.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-05/txt/msg00318.txt.bz2 On 25 May 2016 at 02:08, wrote: >> It seems still the same problem with dri-drivers >> https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2016-04/msg00283.html >> >> probably caused by LLVM 3.7 > > Unfortunately, the dri-driver versions available in the installer > depend on LLVM 3.7, so, even though reverting back to LLVM 3.5 > is offered when you select llvm, you can't pull in a dri-driver > that works with that older version of LLVM to test that hypothesis. > So, not much point to offering that older version of LLVM. > dri-driver via LLVM is a hack on top of a hack on top of a hack as the developer of the software will tell you. It works in the use cases he develops for but outside of that you are very much all alone. So even trying to have a 'known' good is hard for this because what worked on your laptop/system may not work at all on any other one. Heck it might not even work when the Windows OS underneath does an update even though the hardware worked. To quote the road sign Expect problems. Road construction ahead. If you are needing better stability then you need to staff up somewhere to have people to fix those problems. > Regardless of the fact that OpenGL is broken (again), this is > really a problem with Cygwin as a perennial work-in-progress > and its (lack of) version control. > > I'd like to be able to download a stable-known-to-work-on > a-specified date golden-master Cygwin, without incremental > upgrades, and revert to that known-to-work Cygwin if needs > be. Once every six months? I'd be good with that. > > Lloyd Wood > http://savi.sf.net/ > > -- > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple