From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 39651 invoked by alias); 8 Nov 2016 14:18:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 39630 invoked by uid 89); 8 Nov 2016 14:18:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=income, charged, guilty, winter X-HELO: mail-vk0-f45.google.com Received: from mail-vk0-f45.google.com (HELO mail-vk0-f45.google.com) (209.85.213.45) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Nov 2016 14:18:05 +0000 Received: by mail-vk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id p9so149621091vkd.3 for ; Tue, 08 Nov 2016 06:18:05 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ljJFscvIwyILq7WZbtsy7CCnmMfLYaThtX2+aPowDcI=; b=lnOl3VTazi5+4DAlc0dTFFDfvG63Gz7n0eDdmVEUdaIOosWw6R71YTtfmNPXt41JN/ Bpxmn0Bv48z7EoWAnVVSCwiTbnFrmhdGZ3WVwfNQI/NpWbxgLL9Jw9RtXf5poKzz4U6O BOcuZZ3eg3Zdp1aV1v174td2V7yYoG/S6pN8U3w2ol0dvUg3TePLBd/yzFiAvYQ5hudL d36JV0CUE3AmoI06LxsrY+9AlXrutYippPHu2SGeX0++OKJVQB9L1GxQI5r4IrN03oVe vp0sCDeT+x6wkqvynLw7Q25UEcyFJbsLeFreI5Ku314v8bbq14JXlAu7DQRvg/PM/3qH RjcQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvcjA1pz7bSl6lLbCrNVLHp95DQxv9rrIcJkEg3LDLT87sGE6J6R0r87DlhhweGrS5bAzkKWMzZ17UfJHw== X-Received: by 10.31.231.194 with SMTP id e185mr4962569vkh.145.1478614683953; Tue, 08 Nov 2016 06:18:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.1.168 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2016 06:18:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <000601d239bc$dd8f0be0$98ad23a0$@bonhard.uklinux.net> References: <000601d239bc$dd8f0be0$98ad23a0$@bonhard.uklinux.net> From: Stephen John Smoogen Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 14:18:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Cygwin "setup" program useless on my Win-XP box. Not very nice at all. To: cygwin@cygwin.com Cc: fergus@bonhard.uklinux.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-11/txt/msg00068.txt.bz2 On 8 November 2016 at 07:37, Fergus wrote: >> WinXP is not supported. Complain as you wish, write as long a posts as you > were, it won't change. >> If you need old, outdated and unsupported OS, go into old, outdated and > unsupported Cygwin Time Machine. > > Hang on, this is just a bit dismissive. Years ago the Cygwin nobility gave > us all loads of warning of the demise of v.1.5 (the last installation that > could be used on W95/98); they took fantastic trouble over supplying - and > deploying to mirrors - the last relevant sources under release-legacy/ with > an associated setup-legacy.ini AND an associated setup-legacy.exe to set the > whole thing up. And, finally, seven or more years on, this version is still > available: see, for example, > http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/windows/cygwin/. > > No such efforts with the last available XP version. Come on, the Time > Machine is really hard to navigate. It would have been really helpful to do > for XP exactly what was done for 95/98: petrify the last relevant sources > along with .ini and .exe, re-label conveniently and obviously, and upload to > mirrors. > The world has changed greatly since that time. Cygwin is no longer a product with an income stream that can cover costs of admins, developers and legwork. It is done by volunteers at Red Hat (Corinna and Yaakov's jobs are now primarily linux kernel development and other work). Yes it would be great if that work had been done and if someone wants to help and do that work, it would be really helpful. I am saying this as someone who made such suggestions and didn't do the work to help them. Guilty as charged. I can see what I can do over my Winter break but it will be a month or more before it happens. > Could this not still be done? Sure, continuing usage of XP carries its own > risks, but that's a quite different issue. > > Fergus > > > -- > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > -- Stephen J Smoogen. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple