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From: "James E. King III" <jking@apache.org>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: pthread_cond_timedwait with setclock(CLOCK_MONOTONIC) times out early
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 15:47:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOWZHxdmOeQ7o6099PERwq-FbFbdYLLm43JfR5iQm-HtfP90aw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181126153545.GM30649@calimero.vinschen.de>

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:35 AM Corinna Vinschen
<corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com> wrote:
>
> On Nov 25 09:01, James E. King III wrote:
> > I have isolated a problem in pthread_cond_timedwait when the condattr
> > is used to set the clock type to CLOCK_MONOTONIC.  In this case even
> > though a target time point in the future is specified, the call
> > returns ETIMEDOUT but a subsequent call to
> > clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC) shows the desired time point was not
> > reached.
> >
> > $ gcc timed_wait_short.c -o timed_wait_short
> > $ ./timed_wait_short.exe
> > [...]
> >  begin:     521056s  671907500n
> > target:     521056s  721907500n
> >    end:     521056s  721578000n
> >     ok: false
> >
> > I have attached the source code.
>
> Thanks for the testcase.  The problem is this:
>
> The underlying implementation uses a Windows waitable time set to
> implement the timeout.  In case of a CLOCK_REALTIME timer, we can use
> the given absolut timestamp in 100ns resolution for the timer.
>
> On the other hand, the CLOCK_MONOTONIC timer is not running in absolut
> time but uses the hi-res timestamps generated by QueryPerformanceCounter.
> The perf counter uses an arbitrary "ticks per second" unit which is
> converted to nsecs on the fly on the POSIX API level.  However, perf
> counters are not waitable objects, only waitable timers are, so we have
> to use the perf timer values to prime a waitable timer evetually.
>
> The side effect is that we have to use relative offset under the hood as
> soon as the base timer is CLOCK_MONOTONIC, since there's no direct
> relation to the absolute system time as used by the waitable timer in
> absolute mode.
>
> Combine this with the inaccuracy of the Windows waitable timer and wait
> functions in general(*) and you know what uphill battle accuracy is in
> this scenario.
>
> Having said that, I don't have a *good*, reliable solution to this
> problem.
>
> At the moment I only have an *ugly* idea:  We can always add the
> coarsest resolution of the wait functions (typically 15.625 ms) to the
> relative timeout value computed from the absolute timeout given to
> pthread_cond_timedwait.  In my testing this is sufficient since the
> difference between target and actual end time is always < 15ms, in
> thousands of runs.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Corinna
>
> (*) https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/Sync/wait-functions#wait-functions-and-time-out-intervals
>
> --
> Corinna Vinschen
> Cygwin Maintainer

Some thoughts:

https://cygwin.com/git/gitweb.cgi?p=newlib-cygwin.git;a=blob;f=winsup/cygwin/thread.cc;h=0bddaf345d255ae39187458dc6d02b1b4c8087c1;hb=HEAD#l2546

In pthread_convert_abstime, line 2564, care is taken to adjust for
rounding errors.
At line 2574, the rounding is not accounted for when adjusting for a
relative wait because it is a monotonic clock.
Wouldn't that rounding error cause it to wait less time?

- Jim

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-26 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-25 14:01 James E. King III
2018-11-26 15:35 ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-11-26 15:47   ` James E. King III [this message]
2018-11-26 16:47     ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-11-29 10:18       ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-11-29 22:39         ` James E. King III
2018-11-30 12:14           ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-11-30 12:44             ` James E. King III
2018-11-30 12:56               ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-12-01  4:27                 ` Brian Inglis
2018-12-01  9:53                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-12-01 15:49                     ` Brian Inglis
2018-12-02 11:34                       ` Corinna Vinschen

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