[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: version 5.45 of expect/tcl

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: version 5.45 of expect/tcl

[Craig Miller]

Hello All,

I am the author of expect-lite <expect-lite.sf.net> which relies heavily 
on expect. The version in the cygwin repository is quite old (from 
2003). I have compiled a modern version of expect (v 5.45) based on TCL 8.5.

Expect, originally written by Don Libes, is  a  program  that "talks" to 
other interactive programs according to a script.  Following the script, 
Expect knows what can be expected from  a  program and  what  the 
correct  response  should  be.   An interpreted language provides 
branching and high-level control structures to direct the dialogue.  In 
addition, the user can take control and interact directly when desired, 
afterward returning control to the script.

This is a direct replacement for the 2003 version, and can be found at:
http://www.makikiweb.com/cygwin/expect/

Please accept this into the cygwin repository.

thanks,

Craig...


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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: version 5.45 of expect/tcl

[Marco Atzeri]

On 10/25/2011 3:31 AM, Craig Miller wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am the author of expect-lite <expect-lite.sf.net> which relies heavily
> on expect. The version in the cygwin repository is quite old (from
> 2003). I have compiled a modern version of expect (v 5.45) based on TCL
> 8.5.
>
> Expect, originally written by Don Libes, is a program that "talks" to
> other interactive programs according to a script. Following the script,
> Expect knows what can be expected from a program and what the correct
> response should be. An interpreted language provides branching and
> high-level control structures to direct the dialogue. In addition, the
> user can take control and interact directly when desired, afterward
> returning control to the script.
>
> This is a direct replacement for the 2003 version, and can be found at:
> http://www.makikiweb.com/cygwin/expect/
>
> Please accept this into the cygwin repository.
>
> thanks,
>
> Craig...
>

I suspect our expect package maintainer (aka cgf) is capable to
update the package by himself.
Moreover the tcltk package in cygwin is based around 8.4 not 8.5.

Regards
Marco




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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: version 5.45 of expect/tcl

[Larry W. Virden]

Craig - it is good to see some work going on in cygwin relating to
tcl. I hope that expect-lite is incorporated; it would be nice to have
a version of tcl closer to the latest version released.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Craig Miller <cvmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I am the author of expect-lite <expect-lite.sf.net> which relies heavily on
> expect. The version in the cygwin repository is quite old (from 2003). I
> have compiled a modern version of expect (v 5.45) based on TCL 8.5.

You may want to contact the cygwinports <
http://sourceware.org/cygwinports > to see if active support for a
current release should go there first.

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New versions of tcl and expect? [Was: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: version 5.45 of expect/tcl]

[Charles Wilson]

On 10/24/2011 9:31 PM, Craig Miller wrote:
[text]

Please don't imitate our official announcement subject lines.  This is
why I rejected your original post to cygwin-announce: that list (and,
fairly speaking, the subject line format) is for official announcements
by the duly appointed *cygwin* maintainers of cygwin packages.

In any case, I'll repeat what I put in the reject message:
> That's not what this list is for. Please open a discussion concerning
> this new expect on the main cygwin list. I'll point out that there
> is a long-standing issue with the cygwin tcl/tk packages, which right
> now are sort of frankenstein part cygwin part native win32...and
> efforts to fix that have met resistance for a variety of reasons.
> 
> So...be prepared for an, err, "vigorous", debate...

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: version 5.45 of expect/tcl

[Craig Miller]

Hi Marco,

I am sure someone else could update the expect package, but I have
been following cygwin for a year now (support expect-lite on cygwin)
and saw no updates. There is functionality in the newer expect that
expect-lite takes advantage of, and it would be nice to have a newer
version in the distro.

I have included in the package the tcl lib for 8.5. It will get
installed when this package is installed.

I hope that helps,

Craig...

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Craig Miller <cvmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Marco,
> I am sure someone else could update the expect package, but I have been following cygwin for a year now (support expect-lite on cygwin) and saw no updates. There is functionality in the newer expect that expect-lite takes advantage of, and it would be nice to have a newer version in the distro.
> I have included in the package the tcl lib for 8.5. It will get installed when this package is installed.
> I hope that helps,
> Craig...
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Marco Atzeri <marco.atzeri@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 10/25/2011 3:31 AM, Craig Miller wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I am the author of expect-lite <expect-lite.sf.net> which relies heavily
>>> on expect. The version in the cygwin repository is quite old (from
>>> 2003). I have compiled a modern version of expect (v 5.45) based on TCL
>>> 8.5.
>>>
>>> Expect, originally written by Don Libes, is a program that "talks" to
>>> other interactive programs according to a script. Following the script,
>>> Expect knows what can be expected from a program and what the correct
>>> response should be. An interpreted language provides branching and
>>> high-level control structures to direct the dialogue. In addition, the
>>> user can take control and interact directly when desired, afterward
>>> returning control to the script.
>>>
>>> This is a direct replacement for the 2003 version, and can be found at:
>>> http://www.makikiweb.com/cygwin/expect/
>>>
>>> Please accept this into the cygwin repository.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Craig...
>>>
>>
>> I suspect our expect package maintainer (aka cgf) is capable to
>> update the package by himself.
>> Moreover the tcltk package in cygwin is based around 8.4 not 8.5.
>>
>> Regards
>> Marco
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: version 5.45 of expect/tcl

[Craig Miller]

Thanks Larry,

Once I get the updated version of expect in the distro, I think I
would like to create an expect-lite package for cygwin. It doesn't
appear all that hard, and I am already creating deb and rpm packages.

Thanks,

Craig...

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Larry W. Virden <lvirden@gmail.com> wrote:
> Craig - it is good to see some work going on in cygwin relating to
> tcl. I hope that expect-lite is incorporated; it would be nice to have
> a version of tcl closer to the latest version released.
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Craig Miller <cvmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I am the author of expect-lite <expect-lite.sf.net> which relies heavily on
>> expect. The version in the cygwin repository is quite old (from 2003). I
>> have compiled a modern version of expect (v 5.45) based on TCL 8.5.
>
> You may want to contact the cygwinports <
> http://sourceware.org/cygwinports > to see if active support for a
> current release should go there first.
>
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> should be construed as representing my employer's opinions.
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: version 5.45 of expect/tcl

[Marco Atzeri]

On 10/25/2011 6:18 PM, Craig Miller wrote:
> Hi Marco,
>
> I am sure someone else could update the expect package, but I have
> been following cygwin for a year now (support expect-lite on cygwin)
> and saw no updates. There is functionality in the newer expect that
> expect-lite takes advantage of, and it would be nice to have a newer
> version in the distro.
>
> I have included in the package the tcl lib for 8.5. It will get
> installed when this package is installed.
>
> I hope that helps,
>
> Craig...

Craig,
it is clear that you are not yet familiar with the cygwin mailing
list and the way of working of the cygwin maintainer community.

1st) on these mailing lists we do not top-post

2nd) if you need a package to be updated, the right way is to ask
      politely the maintainer to update it, sending an e-mail to this
      mailing list.

3rd) if you want to offer yourself as mantainer "of expect-lite"
      package for cygwin, than you start reading the documentation at
      http://cygwin.com/setup.html

      We expect a package to follow certain rules and be provided
      also as source non only as binary.

As all the package mantainer are volounteers, we appreciate the job
of everyone and we do not step over the other responsabilities.

For your info, here is the list of packages and maintainers:

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-pkg-maint

As you can see, Christopher is taking care of a lot of packages,
but if you ask politely you have chance to see "expect" updated.

Best Regards
Marco

>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Craig Miller<cvmiller@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marco,
>> I am sure someone else could update the expect package, but I have been following cygwin for a year now (support expect-lite on cygwin) and saw no updates. There is functionality in the newer expect that expect-lite takes advantage of, and it would be nice to have a newer version in the distro.
>> I have included in the package the tcl lib for 8.5. It will get installed when this package is installed.
>> I hope that helps,
>> Craig...
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Marco Atzeri<marco.atzeri@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/25/2011 3:31 AM, Craig Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> I am the author of expect-lite<expect-lite.sf.net>  which relies heavily
>>>> on expect. The version in the cygwin repository is quite old (from
>>>> 2003). I have compiled a modern version of expect (v 5.45) based on TCL
>>>> 8.5.
>>>>
>>>> Expect, originally written by Don Libes, is a program that "talks" to
>>>> other interactive programs according to a script. Following the script,
>>>> Expect knows what can be expected from a program and what the correct
>>>> response should be. An interpreted language provides branching and
>>>> high-level control structures to direct the dialogue. In addition, the
>>>> user can take control and interact directly when desired, afterward
>>>> returning control to the script.
>>>>
>>>> This is a direct replacement for the 2003 version, and can be found at:
>>>> http://www.makikiweb.com/cygwin/expect/
>>>>
>>>> Please accept this into the cygwin repository.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Craig...
>>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect our expect package maintainer (aka cgf) is capable to
>>> update the package by himself.
>>> Moreover the tcltk package in cygwin is based around 8.4 not 8.5.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Marco


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