From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 103648 invoked by alias); 28 Aug 2015 21:53:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 103637 invoked by uid 89); 28 Aug 2015 21:53:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: etr-usa.com Received: from etr-usa.com (HELO etr-usa.com) (130.94.180.135) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:53:22 +0000 Received: (qmail 95433 invoked by uid 13447); 28 Aug 2015 21:53:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO polypore.west.etr-usa.com) ([73.26.17.49]) (envelope-sender ) by 130.94.180.135 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Aug 2015 21:53:20 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Some programs (vi, ssh) crash when screen buffer height is big From: Warren Young In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 23:24:00 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <26A19798-1F20-4D52-A311-C8312E0D4621@etr-usa.com> <6DC9320F-4DCC-47E4-AB8C-3158EBD6260E@etr-usa.com> <55DC9C55.9090404@gmail.com> <55DFB10C.3050804@cygwin.com> To: The Cygwin Mailing List X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2015-08/txt/msg00534.txt.bz2 > On Aug 28, 2015, at 7:23 AM, Sous Lesquels wrote: >=20 > I feel that with increasing monitors sizes =3D=3D increasing window sizes, You=E2=80=99re making an unwarranted assumption. Increasing monitor sizes = do not require increasing window widths. As we saw in my original testing, the problem does not occur when the termi= nal window is 80 columns wide. In fact, the default 80 column width is a bit too wide for optimal reading = comprehension already: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2014/09/balancing-line-length-font-size-r= esponsive-web-design/ I=E2=80=99m not alone in recognizing this fact, and therefore choosing to u= se extra monitor space to increase the *height* of terminal windows only. = I generally keep windows taller than wide, arranged in 2-3 columns across o= n my 27=E2=80=9D monitors. The lone article I linked above is just a gloss over some very old, well-es= tablished science. It=E2=80=99s why books are the size they are, and why n= ewspapers print their material in multiple columns instead of spanning the = whole page width. I strongly encourage you to reconsider your practice of full-screening cons= ole windows. ConEmu crashes aside, you are harming your own productivity. (The same goes for any window containing primarily text: the message pane i= n your email client, your web browser, your desktop Kindle app=E2=80=A6) For Science, I decided to try and narrow the range where the symptom occurs= . I could not make it happen at 160 columns after three runs. I failed ag= ain at 240. Then I increased it to 300, and still failed: three runs, no c= alloc() abort.=20=20 This whole time, I had the window at 64 lines high, so I tried increasing t= hat to near my monitor=E2=80=99s height, 84 lines with the font settings I = prefer. Still no replication of the symptom.=20=20 By this point, I had only about 3-4 mm of space around the window top-and-b= ottom, and about 1 cm to either side, so I finally full-screened the window= , and *now* the symptom reoccured. So Doctor Repin is right: don=E2=80=99t do that. :) > I can change > from ConEmu to mintty, but IMHO that's like saying I can use the > stairs instead of an elevator in Burj Khalifa. A more apt comparison is between stairs and ramps in a world where most peo= ple use wheels to get around, but you prefer the stairs. You=E2=80=99ve di= scovered that the dust on the stairs occasionally catches fire when you run= up them with a Roman candle in each hand. So you complain that your leg h= air is getting scorched, and are rejecting advice to either use the well-sw= ept ramp or stop carrying flaming objects up the stairs. Defaults matter. The ramp is front-and-center when you walk in the main Cy= gwin doors, whereas the stairs are down a poorly-lit side hall, one turn to= the left and two to the right, past the soda machine, and behind an unmark= ed door. Your path will not be as well-traveled, and consequently will no= t be as well-maintained. > Saying "it's ms bug", "it's a design choice", "it's a bug, but we > don't have time / resources to fix it", "it happens so rarely, we > don't care", "it's going to be fixed in 2030", etc. is fine with me. How about, =E2=80=9CScratch your own itch.=E2=80=9D You have the source co= de and a replicable test case. *I* have the source and a replicable test case, too, but I don=E2=80=99t ha= ve the itch. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple