RE: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

RE: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[Anthony Tuininga]

The location can be set via environment variable with an appropriate
default. I would much prefer this method as well as the registry is a big
conglomeration of everything under the sun -- including entries from
programs you uninstalled years ago.... :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Enoch Wu [ mailto:wue@eskimo.com ]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 6:58 PM
To: john_r_velman@mail.hac.com; gnu-win32@cygnus.com
Subject: Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?


Hi all,

I second it!  We should be able to use a mount table like linux's fstab on
the C drive's root directory. How do you mount it on c:/root/b19/etc/fstab
for example, assuming the root is at c:/root/b19 ?  Perhaps the location of
fstab can be hard-coded like c:/root/etc/fstab.

Enoch

At 05:34 PM 10/13/98 -0700, john_r_velman@mail.hac.com wrote:
>As far as I can tell, the only thing the registry entries are used for is 
>to set up the simulated mounts, with the binary text options.
>
>How much trouble would it be to do this with a mount table as per Linux, 
>instead of putting it in the registry?  
>
>One reason I ask is that I work for a big company and our IS people want 
>everyone to have standard registry entries.  It seems to me that everything

>else I really need works without messing with the registry.
>
>Other than that, I'm really quite pleased with cyg-win/gnu-win.
>
>John Velman
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Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[Jeff Sturm]

OK, one thing to keep in mind here... env variables like CYGROOT
potentially can change between process invocations; that is CYGROOT
would be a process-local configuration.

However the mount table is currently a global setting, kept in shared
memory (a persistent copy is made to the win32 registry).

So what exactly should happen if CYGROOT were to change after mount
table initialization?  There could be several answers, but "crash" is
not a good one... (similar to the infamous bug of setting CYGWIN32=tty).

A /etc/fstab seems like a good idea... normally un*x reads /etc/fstab
somewhere during boot from an rc script... since GNU-Win32 has no init
process or rc scripts, should cygwinb19.dll instead try to run
/etc/fstab once during initialization?

Having /etc/mnttab is possible too... I would rather that cygwin32 had a
real "/proc filesystem" with a /proc/mnttab, linked to /etc/mnttab. 
That'll be easy if we ever have /proc...


Austin David France wrote:
> 
> I fourth this one.
> 
> Use of the CYGROOT environment variable is both flexible and simple to use.
> 
> What if $CYGROOT/etc/mnttab does not exist?
> 
> cygwin*.dll should mount / based on $CYGROOT, perhaps it does this already?
> 
> Perhaps the default for CYGROOT should be the installation directory?
> 
> TTFN,
> ()z
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> > Behalf Of Earnie Boyd
> > Sent: 16 October 1998 01:50
> > To: Enoch Wu; john_r_velman@mail.hac.com; gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> > Subject: Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?
> >
> >
> >
> > Since I've stated this before, I'll third it.  As to how to find
> > /etc/fstab use an environment variable called CYGROOT.  If CYGROOT
> > doesn't exist then it must be c:/etc/fstab.
> >
> > ---Enoch Wu <wue@eskimo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I second it!  We should be able to use a mount table like linux's
> > fstab on
> > > the C drive's root directory. How do you mount it on
> > c:/root/b19/etc/fstab
> > > for example, assuming the root is at c:/root/b19 ?  Perhaps the
> > location of
> > > fstab can be hard-coded like c:/root/etc/fstab.
> > >
> > > Enoch
> > >
> > > At 05:34 PM 10/13/98 -0700, john_r_velman@mail.hac.com wrote:
> > > >As far as I can tell, the only thing the registry entries are used
> > for is
> > > >to set up the simulated mounts, with the binary text options.
> > > >
> > > >How much trouble would it be to do this with a mount table as per
> > Linux,
> > > >instead of putting it in the registry?
> > > >
> > > >One reason I ask is that I work for a big company and our IS people
> > want
> > > >everyone to have standard registry entries.  It seems to me that
> > everything
> > > >else I really need works without messing with the registry.
> > > >
> > > >Other than that, I'm really quite pleased with cyg-win/gnu-win.
> > > >
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RE: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[Austin David France]

I fourth this one.

Use of the CYGROOT environment variable is both flexible and simple to use.

What if $CYGROOT/etc/mnttab does not exist? 

cygwin*.dll should mount / based on $CYGROOT, perhaps it does this already?

Perhaps the default for CYGROOT should be the installation directory?

TTFN,
()z

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnu-win32@cygnus.com [ mailto:owner-gnu-win32@cygnus.com]On
> Behalf Of Earnie Boyd
> Sent: 16 October 1998 01:50
> To: Enoch Wu; john_r_velman@mail.hac.com; gnu-win32@cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?
> 
> 
> 
> Since I've stated this before, I'll third it.  As to how to find
> /etc/fstab use an environment variable called CYGROOT.  If CYGROOT
> doesn't exist then it must be c:/etc/fstab.
> 
> ---Enoch Wu <wue@eskimo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I second it!  We should be able to use a mount table like linux's
> fstab on
> > the C drive's root directory. How do you mount it on
> c:/root/b19/etc/fstab
> > for example, assuming the root is at c:/root/b19 ?  Perhaps the
> location of
> > fstab can be hard-coded like c:/root/etc/fstab.
> > 
> > Enoch
> > 
> > At 05:34 PM 10/13/98 -0700, john_r_velman@mail.hac.com wrote:
> > >As far as I can tell, the only thing the registry entries are used
> for is 
> > >to set up the simulated mounts, with the binary text options.
> > >
> > >How much trouble would it be to do this with a mount table as per
> Linux, 
> > >instead of putting it in the registry?  
> > >
> > >One reason I ask is that I work for a big company and our IS people
> want 
> > >everyone to have standard registry entries.  It seems to me that
> everything 
> > >else I really need works without messing with the registry.
> > >
> > >Other than that, I'm really quite pleased with cyg-win/gnu-win.
> > >
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Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[Larry Hall]

Hard coded locations would be a mistake.  Locations that assume certain 
drive paths (even c:) would also be a mistake in my view.  I don't care
much for this whole registry concept myself but I prefer it in this case
to circumvent the inane drive designations of DOS-based systems.  So while
I'd prefer a "standard" fstab file like many of you, unless there is a 
nice way to put it in its "proper" place with the rest of the distribution,
I would argue against any such change unless there was an option to choose
the rigid, file based approach or the flexible registry approach.  If these
2 options were available and were the only two, I would also argue that the
registry option should remain the default.

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At 05:57 PM 10/14/98 -0700, Enoch Wu wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I second it!  We should be able to use a mount table like linux's fstab on
>the C drive's root directory. How do you mount it on c:/root/b19/etc/fstab
>for example, assuming the root is at c:/root/b19 ?  Perhaps the location of
>fstab can be hard-coded like c:/root/etc/fstab.
>
>Enoch
>
>At 05:34 PM 10/13/98 -0700, john_r_velman@mail.hac.com wrote:
>>As far as I can tell, the only thing the registry entries are used for is 
>>to set up the simulated mounts, with the binary text options.
>>
>>How much trouble would it be to do this with a mount table as per Linux, 
>>instead of putting it in the registry?  
>>
>>One reason I ask is that I work for a big company and our IS people want 
>>everyone to have standard registry entries.  It seems to me that everything 
>>else I really need works without messing with the registry.
>>
>>Other than that, I'm really quite pleased with cyg-win/gnu-win.
>>
>>John Velman
>>jrvelman@mail.hac.com
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Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[Michael Hirmke]

Hi Enoch,

>Hi all,
>
>I second it!  We should be able to use a mount table like linux's fstab on
>the C drive's root directory. How do you mount it on c:/root/b19/etc/fstab
>for example, assuming the root is at c:/root/b19 ?  Perhaps the location of
>fstab can be hard-coded like c:/root/etc/fstab.

Hardcoded ? Nope, please don't 8-//
May I suggest an env var ? CYGWIN_FSTAB= ?

>
>Enoch

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Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[Earnie Boyd]

Since I've stated this before, I'll third it.  As to how to find
/etc/fstab use an environment variable called CYGROOT.  If CYGROOT
doesn't exist then it must be c:/etc/fstab.

---Enoch Wu <wue@eskimo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> I second it!  We should be able to use a mount table like linux's
fstab on
> the C drive's root directory. How do you mount it on
c:/root/b19/etc/fstab
> for example, assuming the root is at c:/root/b19 ?  Perhaps the
location of
> fstab can be hard-coded like c:/root/etc/fstab.
> 
> Enoch
> 
> At 05:34 PM 10/13/98 -0700, john_r_velman@mail.hac.com wrote:
> >As far as I can tell, the only thing the registry entries are used
for is 
> >to set up the simulated mounts, with the binary text options.
> >
> >How much trouble would it be to do this with a mount table as per
Linux, 
> >instead of putting it in the registry?  
> >
> >One reason I ask is that I work for a big company and our IS people
want 
> >everyone to have standard registry entries.  It seems to me that
everything 
> >else I really need works without messing with the registry.
> >
> >Other than that, I'm really quite pleased with cyg-win/gnu-win.
> >
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Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[Enoch Wu]

Hi all,

I second it!  We should be able to use a mount table like linux's fstab on
the C drive's root directory. How do you mount it on c:/root/b19/etc/fstab
for example, assuming the root is at c:/root/b19 ?  Perhaps the location of
fstab can be hard-coded like c:/root/etc/fstab.

Enoch

At 05:34 PM 10/13/98 -0700, john_r_velman@mail.hac.com wrote:
>As far as I can tell, the only thing the registry entries are used for is 
>to set up the simulated mounts, with the binary text options.
>
>How much trouble would it be to do this with a mount table as per Linux, 
>instead of putting it in the registry?  
>
>One reason I ask is that I work for a big company and our IS people want 
>everyone to have standard registry entries.  It seems to me that everything 
>else I really need works without messing with the registry.
>
>Other than that, I'm really quite pleased with cyg-win/gnu-win.
>
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Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[Anthony Ortenzi]

Well, since I'm setting up gnu-win32 on a Zip disk to use on various systems, I was in here looking for the same type of info... I understand it's kind of kludgy, but I just created a .bashrc file for myself, for example, with 

umount /
mount d: /

Not necessarily as glorious as you'd like, but functional...

-Anthony
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As far as I can tell, the only thing the registry entries are used for is 
> to set up the simulated mounts, with the binary text options.
> 
> How much trouble would it be to do this with a mount table as per Linux, 
> instead of putting it in the registry?  
> 
> One reason I ask is that I work for a big company and our IS people want 
> everyone to have standard registry entries.  It seems to me that everything 
> else I really need works without messing with the registry.
> 
> Other than that, I'm really quite pleased with cyg-win/gnu-win.
> 
> John Velman
> jrvelman@mail.hac.com


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Re: gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[Anthony Ortenzi]

Well, since I'm setting up gnu-win32 on a Zip disk to use on various systems, I was in here looking for the same type of info... I understand it's kind of kludgy, but I just created a .bashrc file for myself, for example, with 

umount /
mount d: /

Not necessarily as glorious as you'd like, but functional...

-Anthony
--
As far as I can tell, the only thing the registry entries are used for is 
> to set up the simulated mounts, with the binary text options.
> 
> How much trouble would it be to do this with a mount table as per Linux, 
> instead of putting it in the registry?  
> 
> One reason I ask is that I work for a big company and our IS people want 
> everyone to have standard registry entries.  It seems to me that everything 
> else I really need works without messing with the registry.
> 
> Other than that, I'm really quite pleased with cyg-win/gnu-win.
> 
> John Velman
> jrvelman@mail.hac.com


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gnu-win32 without registry entries?

[john_r_velman]

As far as I can tell, the only thing the registry entries are used for is 
to set up the simulated mounts, with the binary text options.

How much trouble would it be to do this with a mount table as per Linux, 
instead of putting it in the registry?  

One reason I ask is that I work for a big company and our IS people want 
everyone to have standard registry entries.  It seems to me that everything 
else I really need works without messing with the registry.

Other than that, I'm really quite pleased with cyg-win/gnu-win.

John Velman
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