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From: Bill Zissimopoulos <billziss@navimatics.com>
To: "cygwin@cygwin.com" <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Subject: Re: POSIX permission mapping and NULL SIDs
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:06:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D392F074.962E%billziss@navimatics.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160624195144.GB27089@calimero.vinschen.de>

On 6/24/16, 12:51 PM, "Corinna Vinschen" <cygwin-owner@cygwin.com on
behalf of corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com> wrote:


>>Could my mapping of the NULL SID somehow interfere with Cygwin’s ACL
>> mapping? No way right? Turns out that: yes!
>>File:winsup/cygwin/sec_acl.cc,
>> line:787
>
>Read the comment at the beginning of the file explaining how new-style
>ACLs look like.

Thank you for the pointers and the historical information.

>>I am also seeking an alternative to using the NULL SID for
>> “nobody”/“nogroup”. Is there a Cygwin suggested one?
>
>Not yet.  We're coming from the other side.  We always have *some* SID.
>pwdgrp::fetch_account_from_windows() in uinfo.cc tries to convert the SID
>to a passwd or group entry.  If everything fails, the SID is used in this
>passwd/group entry verbatim, but mapped to uid/gid -1.

I also noticed that there is no uid mapping for nobody. On my OSX box it
is -2. On many other POSIX systems it appears to be the 32-bit or 16-bit
equivalent of -2.

For the time being I am mapping unknown SID’s to -1 as per Cygwin.

>If you want some specific mapping we can arrange that, but it must not
>be the NULL SID.  If you know you're communicating with a Cygwin process,
>what about using an arbitrary, unused SID like S-1-0-42?

I am inclined to try S-1-5-7 (Anonymous). But I do not know if that is a
bad choice for some reason or other.

The main reason that I am weary of using an unused SID is that Microsoft
may decide to assign some special powers to it in a future release (e.g.
GodMode SID). But I agree that this is rather unlikely in the S-1-0-X
namespace.

>How do you differ nobody from nogroup if you use the same SID for both,
>btw.?

I use the same SID for both nobody and nogroup. This should work as long
as you use the permission mapping from the [PERMS] document.

Bill


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-24 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-24 19:02 Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-06-24 21:37 ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-06-24 22:00   ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-06-24 22:06   ` Bill Zissimopoulos [this message]
2016-06-24 22:31     ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-06-24 22:36       ` Erik Soderquist
2016-06-24 23:03         ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-06-24 23:51           ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-06-27 13:20             ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-06-24 22:53       ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-06-25 17:10       ` Brian Inglis
2016-06-27 10:26       ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-06-27 10:29         ` Andrey Repin
2016-06-27 12:06           ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-06-27 20:31             ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-06-28 11:08               ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-06-28 19:17                 ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-06-28 19:17                   ` John Ruckstuhl
2016-06-29  8:43                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-06-29 15:14                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-06-29 16:06                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2016-06-30  9:26                     ` Bill Zissimopoulos
2016-06-30 14:15                       ` Corinna Vinschen

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