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Actually I hung on to the components that comprise wish8.4 and toggle betwe= en them at will and can confirm the truth of (1) and (2) above.=20 Generally though, I guess users have upgraded to wish8.6 long since and if = they use it to provide Tcl/Tk menus (?) or sidebar Help Tcl/Tk windows (?) are used to requiring e.g. xte= rm in XWin in order to do so. =20 ALL THIS in Cygwin-32. Recent unconnected threads in this list have persuaded me to trial Cygwin-6= 4 (and, if happy, I'll jettison the Cygwin-32 platform). I have installed it identically (see setup -P below). The many contexts in which wish8.6 has worked properly in Cygwin-32 are, fo= r me, failing uniformly in Cygwin-64. By this I mean, Tcl/Tk menus are mutely failing to appear, Tcl/T= k Help windows are mutely failing to appear. Can't think what I'm getting wrong. But a good first step would be: have an= y of you, in advancing from Cygwin-32 to what was intended to provide identical functionality in Cygwin-64, exper= ienced similar unexplained glitches, and managed to solve them? Or is this experience unique? If you can help wi= th this specific Tcl/Tk problem, that would be perfect! BTW I use setup-x86[_64] -P ..,..,tcl-tix,tcl-tk-devel,..,..=20 to build the supporting platforms. Thank you! * "Can't entirely recall .. .." (line 1): Typing "site:cygwin.com searchstring" into the Google search bar used to yi= eld pages of output, including hits for very specific strings e.g. "site:cygwin.com fergus grap" to remind myself w= hat I asked about grap as long ago as 2001 - and, much more helpfully, what somebody kindly answered. Now, after= a measly trickle of hits, Google explains the paucity with a reference to data protection. I know I asked sp= ecifically about the loss of versatility with wish8.4 at the time, but cannot find the thread.=20 Is there a vehicle which still permits an exhaustive search of the entire C= ygwin project mailing archive?