Re: another cygwin using program...

Re: another cygwin using program...

[Karl M]

But Chris...a canned response is bureaucratic...which could be considered 
offensive...to anyone other than the government agency that is responsible 
for the true Cygwin purp

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>From: Christopher Faylor <cgf@redhat.com>
>Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com
>To: cygwin@cygwin.com
>Subject: Re: another cygwin using program...
>Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:24:20 -0400
>
>On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:36:52AM +0000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
> >but 'seriously' i just dont care enough to send one onwards to the
> >person.  But, I think it is just wrong, to not let the people who Might
> >care, know.
>
>I hope my attempt at humor didn't diminish my message.  I really do
>appreciate knowing about these things and I *really* don't expect you,
>or anyone, to be a GPL policeman for the project.
>
>I think I'm going to try to develop a canned, pleasant, nonoffensive
>message that I send out when this kind of thing is noticed.  That way
>I'll feel more secure when I get flamed.
>
>cgf
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Re: another cygwin using program...

[Charles Wilson]

Christopher Faylor wrote:

>>Kewl!  A place where I can download b20!  Now I can finally dump this 
>>crappy 1.3.x version this mean cgf person insists on letting us use!
>>
> 
> B20 rulez!


You know, *everything* worked on B20.  It all went to hell when 1.0/1.1 
was released.  I had User Mode Linux running under B20!

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Re: another cygwin using program...

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 09:08:39PM +0200, Michael Schaap wrote:
>On 10-7-2002 5:30, Gareth Pearce wrote:
>
>>http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
>>uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I cant find 
>>it... unless its in cygwin-b20-full.exe.  Which i cant check since i 
>>am not near a windows box.
>>Certainly doesnt make it clear where the source is. 
>
>Kewl!  A place where I can download b20!  Now I can finally dump this 
>crappy 1.3.x version this mean cgf person insists on letting us use!

B20 rulez!

cgf

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Re: another cygwin using program...

[Gareth Pearce]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Faylor" <cgf@redhat.com>
To: <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:24 AM
Subject: Re: another cygwin using program...


> On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:36:52AM +0000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
> >but 'seriously' i just dont care enough to send one onwards to the
> >person.  But, I think it is just wrong, to not let the people who Might
> >care, know.
>
> I hope my attempt at humor didn't diminish my message.  I really do
> appreciate knowing about these things and I *really* don't expect you,
> or anyone, to be a GPL policeman for the project.

I did indeed understand clearly enough, and would of used a witty method of
trying to ensure that my position was clear as well, but i was feeling
rather humor impaired at the time and just had to settle for plain dialog.

Gareth.

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Re: another cygwin using program...

[Charles Wilson]

I DON'T KNOW.  PERHAPS YOU COULD TRY THIS OTHER METHOD OF UNSUBSCRIBING.

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>> From: Michael Schaap <cygwin@mscha.org>
>> To: cygwin@cygwin.com
>> Subject: Re: another cygwin using program...
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:08:39 +0200
>>
>> On 10-7-2002 5:30, Gareth Pearce wrote:
>>
>>> http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
>>> uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I cant find 
>>> it... unless its in cygwin-b20-full.exe.  Which i cant check since i 
>>> am not near a windows box.
>>> Certainly doesnt make it clear where the source is.
>>
>>
>> Kewl!  A place where I can download b20!  Now I can finally dump this 
>> crappy 1.3.x version this mean cgf person insists on letting us use!
>>
>> - Michael
>>
>> (Sorry.  ;-) )
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Re: another cygwin using program...

[morad m]

CAN YOU TEL ME HOW CAN I Unsubscribe MY SELF FROM THE LIST ?

I TRIED Unsubscribe info BUT DOES NOT WORK !!!

THANK'S


>From: Michael Schaap <cygwin@mscha.org>
>To: cygwin@cygwin.com
>Subject: Re: another cygwin using program...
>Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:08:39 +0200
>
>On 10-7-2002 5:30, Gareth Pearce wrote:
>
>>http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
>>uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I cant find it... 
>>unless its in cygwin-b20-full.exe.  Which i cant check since i am not near 
>>a windows box.
>>Certainly doesnt make it clear where the source is.
>
>Kewl!  A place where I can download b20!  Now I can finally dump this 
>crappy 1.3.x version this mean cgf person insists on letting us use!
>
>- Michael
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Re: another cygwin using program...

[Michael Schaap]

On 10-7-2002 5:30, Gareth Pearce wrote:

> http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
> uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I cant find 
> it... unless its in cygwin-b20-full.exe.  Which i cant check since i 
> am not near a windows box.
> Certainly doesnt make it clear where the source is. 

Kewl!  A place where I can download b20!  Now I can finally dump this 
crappy 1.3.x version this mean cgf person insists on letting us use!

 - Michael

(Sorry.  ;-) )


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Re: another cygwin using program...

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:36:52AM +0000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
>but 'seriously' i just dont care enough to send one onwards to the
>person.  But, I think it is just wrong, to not let the people who Might
>care, know.

I hope my attempt at humor didn't diminish my message.  I really do
appreciate knowing about these things and I *really* don't expect you,
or anyone, to be a GPL policeman for the project.

I think I'm going to try to develop a canned, pleasant, nonoffensive
message that I send out when this kind of thing is noticed.  That way
I'll feel more secure when I get flamed.

cgf

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Re: another cygwin using program...

[Nicholas Wourms]

--- Gareth Pearce <tilps@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> hi ...
> 
> before i get flammed like last time - i dont really care about this, its
> 
> just a heads up incase someone else does.
> 
> http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
> uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I cant find
> it... 
> unless its in cygwin-b20-full.exe.  Which i cant check since i am not
> near a 
> windows box.
> Certainly doesnt make it clear where the source is.
> 
> Anyway ... just a 'if anyone cares' I ran into it trying to find an
> identd 
> solution for players at the mud I help run. (stupid aol ips change so
> much 
> that theres no way to tell any of the aol players apart, good from the
> bad)
> 
> hmmm, there isnt an identd for cygwin by any chance ... i dont see
> anything 
> in a package search, if not maybe i can look into the portability of
> one...
> 
> Gareth

Don't ya need bind for identd?  If so, you'll probably want to work on
porting the latest bind before you work on identd.

Cheers,
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Re: another cygwin using program...

[Gareth Pearce]

>
>On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:02:55AM +0000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
> >>> > > http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
> >>> > > uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I
> >>> > > cant find it...
> >>> >
> >>> >You didn't look very hard.  Source is included in the same
> >>> >archive as the executable.
> >>>
> >>> cygwin1.dll source to be specific
> >>
> >>Sorry.  That wasn't clear.
> >>
> >>> I did indeed find the source to identd in the obvious place.
> >>
> >>Yep.  And they point to Cygwin, but thier alternate site for Cygwin has 
>the
> >>old B20 version.  Will thier code build against the current version of 
>the
> >>DLL?  If not, they aren't in compliance with the GPL.
> >>
> >
> >previous mailing list discussions on this topic state that if they
> >distribute the cygwin1.dll, they have to distribute the source code for 
>that
> >
> >particular version.
>
>You are correct, sir.
>
> >So either way its a violation. (ie linking isnt good enough, according to
> >previous discussions) - I am still in digital unix at uni so i have no 
>idea
> >if it compiles with current cygwin, anyway.
> >
> >But, it was a headsup, not a 'i am deeply concerned about this' or I 
>would
> >of emailed the person responsible for the web site in the first place.  
>If i
> >was one of the cygwin developers, maybe i would feel differently, but as 
>a
> >user headsup is enough from me.
>
>Yep.  I wouldn't want to subject a user to the pain of sending this kind of
>email.  Seriously.  It's never fun.
>
>I'll probably send something off as soon as I can ensure that my spirit is
>pure and my will is strong.
>
>Thanks for the heads up.  It is appreciated.  Keem em coming.
>
>cgf

<sarcasm off>
lol

always a great wit there - the bridge one earlier had the office and the mud 
laughing :)

but 'seriously' i just dont care enough to send one onwards to the person.  
But, I think it is just wrong, to not let the people who Might care, know.

Wierd point of view, yes
but thats me.

<sarcasm back on>

Gareth - seriously going to start work on a new release of nano any day now





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Re: another cygwin using program...

[Christopher Faylor]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:02:55AM +0000, Gareth Pearce wrote:
>>> > > http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
>>> > > uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I
>>> > > cant find it...
>>> >
>>> >You didn't look very hard.  Source is included in the same
>>> >archive as the executable.
>>>
>>> cygwin1.dll source to be specific
>>
>>Sorry.  That wasn't clear.
>>
>>> I did indeed find the source to identd in the obvious place.
>>
>>Yep.  And they point to Cygwin, but thier alternate site for Cygwin has the
>>old B20 version.  Will thier code build against the current version of the
>>DLL?  If not, they aren't in compliance with the GPL.
>>
>
>previous mailing list discussions on this topic state that if they 
>distribute the cygwin1.dll, they have to distribute the source code for that 
>
>particular version.

You are correct, sir.

>So either way its a violation. (ie linking isnt good enough, according to 
>previous discussions) - I am still in digital unix at uni so i have no idea 
>if it compiles with current cygwin, anyway.
>
>But, it was a headsup, not a 'i am deeply concerned about this' or I would 
>of emailed the person responsible for the web site in the first place.  If i 
>was one of the cygwin developers, maybe i would feel differently, but as a 
>user headsup is enough from me.

Yep.  I wouldn't want to subject a user to the pain of sending this kind of
email.  Seriously.  It's never fun.

I'll probably send something off as soon as I can ensure that my spirit is
pure and my will is strong.

Thanks for the heads up.  It is appreciated.  Keem em coming.

cgf

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RE: another cygwin using program...

[Gareth Pearce]

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gareth Pearce [mailto:tilps@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:12 AM
> > To: dmccunney@nyc.rr.com
> > Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com
> > Subject: RE: another cygwin using program...
> >
> > > >
> > > > http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
> > > > uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I
> > > > cant find it...
> > >
> > >You didn't look very hard.  Source is included in the same
> > >archive as the executable.
> >
> > cygwin1.dll source to be specific
>
>Sorry.  That wasn't clear.
>
> > I did indeed find the source to identd in the obvious place.
>
>Yep.  And they point to Cygwin, but thier alternate site for Cygwin has the
>old B20 version.  Will thier code build against the current version of the
>DLL?  If not, they aren't in compliance with the GPL.
>

previous mailing list discussions on this topic state that if they 
distribute the cygwin1.dll, they have to distribute the source code for that 
particular version.
So either way its a violation. (ie linking isnt good enough, according to 
previous discussions) - I am still in digital unix at uni so i have no idea 
if it compiles with current cygwin, anyway.

But, it was a headsup, not a 'i am deeply concerned about this' or I would 
of emailed the person responsible for the web site in the first place.  If i 
was one of the cygwin developers, maybe i would feel differently, but as a 
user headsup is enough from me.

Gareth




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RE: another cygwin using program...

[Gareth Pearce]

>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com
> > [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> > Of Gareth Pearce
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:30 PM
> > To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> > Subject: another cygwin using program...
> >
> > http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
> > uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I
> > cant find it...
>
>You didn't look very hard.  Source is included in the same archive as the
>executable.

cygwin1.dll source to be specific

I did indeed find the source to identd in the obvious place.


Gareth

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another cygwin using program...

[Gareth Pearce]

hi ...

before i get flammed like last time - i dont really care about this, its 
just a heads up incase someone else does.

http://freeware.teledanmark.no/identd/
uses cygwin1.dll - and might not be providing source ... I cant find it... 
unless its in cygwin-b20-full.exe.  Which i cant check since i am not near a 
windows box.
Certainly doesnt make it clear where the source is.

Anyway ... just a 'if anyone cares' I ran into it trying to find an identd 
solution for players at the mud I help run. (stupid aol ips change so much 
that theres no way to tell any of the aol players apart, good from the bad)

hmmm, there isnt an identd for cygwin by any chance ... i dont see anything 
in a package search, if not maybe i can look into the portability of one...

Gareth


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