From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 88774 invoked by alias); 12 Feb 2016 22:42:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 88751 invoked by uid 89); 12 Feb 2016 22:42:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: Yes, score=6.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_99,BAYES_999,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPAM_BODY autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=kids, Sign, grandma, H*MI:sk:0JN2rG- X-HELO: etr-usa.com Received: from etr-usa.com (HELO etr-usa.com) (130.94.180.135) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 12 Feb 2016 22:42:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 47281 invoked by uid 13447); 12 Feb 2016 22:42:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO polypore.west.etr-usa.com) ([73.26.17.49]) (envelope-sender ) by 130.94.180.135 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Feb 2016 22:42:06 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Last Version of Cygwin for XP From: Warren Young In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 22:42:00 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <56BA9DB2.3080106@cygwin.com> <56BB6FD1.6000208@molconn.com> <56BB7220.5010101@cygwin.com> <56BCCE7D.6040605@gmail.com> <4D4ECA09-53B3-4A16-89BC-E9C7054A22C7@etr-usa.com> To: The Cygwin Mailing List X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-02/txt/msg00180.txt.bz2 On Feb 12, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Erik Soderquist wro= te: >=20 > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Warren Young wrote: > >> I hope not. Extended support ended nearly two years ago. >=20 > ...why waste the resources on newer (and more bloated) packages? The same blade cuts both ways. The small and shrinking percentage of Cygwi= n + XP users aren=E2=80=99t worth much resource spent on the Cygwin side. Coat your XP boxes in amber and keep on using them, if you must, but any up= dates you still get are pure bonus at this point. > I get very tired of people consistently implying (or > outright saying) that not upgrading XP is some form of stupidity or > insanity. Yes, well, when there are still millions of XP-based ATMs out there, I thin= k I have sufficient justification for reflexive shaming. [1] The Home Depot and Target breaches basically came down to unpatched XP boxe= s. [2] > Would I trust one of these hosts on the internet at all? Of all the XP machines in the world, what percentage have no reason to be o= n the Internet in 2016? I suspect there are more cases of low-regard Internet-connected XP boxes th= an carefully-firewalled cases like yours: - grandma=E2=80=99s email machine - the Steam PC in the kids=E2=80=99 room - the embedded PC inside the Internet-connected kiosk - the machine driving the vinyl cutter at Bill=E2=80=99s Sign Shop=E2=80=A6 Since these boxes are likely to end up as hosts for a botnet, I=E2=80=99m n= ot willing to say it=E2=80=99s just their own lookout. Their disregard is = causing problems for the rest of us. [1] http://goo.gl/9Zf3pw [2] http://goo.gl/EJ5tiY -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple