New Mutt 1.4 package???

New Mutt 1.4 package???

[Tom Halser]

Who's the maintainer of the mutt package?
I think some of us would love to see the new mutt 1.4 as part of
cygwin.

Tom

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Re: New Mutt 1.4 package???

[Nicholas Wourms]

--- Tom Halser <tom@halser.com> wrote:
> Who's the maintainer of the mutt package?
> I think some of us would love to see the new mutt 1.4 as part of
> cygwin.
Tom,

Please use the mailing-list archives.  This subject has been discussed in
the past.  I'm sure when Jason is ready to, he will release mutt-1.4. 
Until then, might I suggest pine?

Cheers,
Nicholas

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Re: New Mutt 1.4 package???

[Charles Krug]

On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 11:49:58AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> --- Tom Halser <tom@halser.com> wrote:
> > Who's the maintainer of the mutt package?
> > I think some of us would love to see the new mutt 1.4 as part of
> > cygwin.
> Tom,
> 
> Please use the mailing-list archives.  This subject has been discussed in
> the past.  I'm sure when Jason is ready to, he will release mutt-1.4. 
> Until then, might I suggest pine?
> 

mutt builds OOTB now.  I recommend that you at least attempt to build it
yourself.

I find that I don't use all of the features Jason includes.
Consequently, my build is a good bit faster on my older (200MHz)
machine.

mutt --version 

will give you starting points for all the build options.

YMMV, of course, and when I put a copy on a faster machine, I'm likely
not to care about the fairly small performance difference.


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Re: New Mutt 1.4 package???

[Jason Tishler]

On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 11:49:58AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> --- Tom Halser <tom@halser.com> wrote:
> > Who's the maintainer of the mutt package?
> 
> Please use the mailing-list archives.  This subject has been discussed in
> the past.  I'm sure when Jason is ready to, he will release mutt-1.4. 

Umm...  I am not the Cygwin mutt maintainer.

Although, I have been considering trying to wrestle it away from
Gary. :,)  Since I already maintain Cygwin fetchmail and procmail
and I'm a "heavy" Cygwin mutt user, this may make sense...

Jason

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Re: New Mutt 1.4 package???

[Nicholas Wourms]

--- Jason Tishler <jason@tishler.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 11:49:58AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> > --- Tom Halser <tom@halser.com> wrote:
> > > Who's the maintainer of the mutt package?
> > 
> > Please use the mailing-list archives.  This subject has been discussed
> in
> > the past.  I'm sure when Jason is ready to, he will release mutt-1.4. 
> 
> Umm...  I am not the Cygwin mutt maintainer.
> 
> Although, I have been considering trying to wrestle it away from
> Gary. :,)  Since I already maintain Cygwin fetchmail and procmail
> and I'm a "heavy" Cygwin mutt user, this may make sense...
> 
Doh!

Talking and typing at the same time...  Sorry Jason... :-)

Cheers,
Nicholas

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RE: New Mutt 1.4 package???

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

[snip]

> mutt builds OOTB now.

Well, sort of.  OOTB it will work only as long as you have all binary mounts.
Text mounts give it fits.

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RE: New Mutt 1.4 package???

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 11:49:58AM -0700, Nicholas Wourms wrote:
> > --- Tom Halser <tom@halser.com> wrote:
> > > Who's the maintainer of the mutt package?
> >
> > Please use the mailing-list archives.  This subject has been discussed in
> > the past.  I'm sure when Jason is ready to, he will release mutt-1.4.
>
> Umm...  I am not the Cygwin mutt maintainer.
>
> Although, I have been considering trying to wrestle it away from
> Gary. :,)

I've been considering the exact same thing, but I was a bit reluctant to breach
the subject, as your cup already looks like it overfloweth ;-).  But if you'd be
willing to maintain it, I'd be more than happy to step down.  Mutt deserves much
more attention than I've been able to give it, and now with working fetchmail
and procmail and the associated potential interoperability issues, I completely
agree that it would make sense for you to take over.

Plus, that'll give me more time to not work on setup. ;-)

>  Since I already maintain Cygwin fetchmail and procmail
> and I'm a "heavy" Cygwin mutt user, this may make sense...
>

That's been my main problem I guess; I'm *not* a heavy mutt user, I just use it
occaisionally to send emails from scripts.  I got it to the point where that
works reliably from text mounts and then dereliction of duty set in.

Let's do this (again, if you're willing to take over):  No Sleep 'Til 1.4.  I
don't hit the sack tonight until I've finished and uploaded the mutt-1.4-1
package.  That'll be my swan song, and then if everybody's in agreement and we
can get all the proper clearances, mutt and hence all of Cygwin's mail
functionality is Tishler territory forevermore ;-).

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Re: New Mutt 1.4 package???

[Jason Tishler]

Gary,

Sorry for the sluggish response time -- it is not for a lack of
interest...

On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 02:02:12AM -0500, Gary R. Van Sickle wrote:
> > Although, I have been considering trying to wrestle it away from
> > Gary. :,)
> 
> I've been considering the exact same thing, but I was a bit reluctant
> to breach the subject, as your cup already looks like it overfloweth
> ;-).

It is and my shop vac and sump pump are broken too! :,)

> But if you'd be willing to maintain it, I'd be more than happy
> to step down.  Mutt deserves much more attention than I've been able
> to give it, and now with working fetchmail and procmail and the
> associated potential interoperability issues, I completely agree that
> it would make sense for you to take over.

I am willing with the caveat below.

> >  Since I already maintain Cygwin fetchmail and procmail
> > and I'm a "heavy" Cygwin mutt user, this may make sense...
> 
> That's been my main problem I guess; I'm *not* a heavy mutt user, I
> just use it occaisionally to send emails from scripts.  I got it to
> the point where that works reliably from text mounts and then
> dereliction of duty set in.

I didn't know that you have already dealt with the text vs. binary mode
issues.  This is good news.

> Let's do this (again, if you're willing to take over):  No Sleep 'Til 1.4.  I
> don't hit the sack tonight until I've finished and uploaded the mutt-1.4-1
> package.  That'll be my swan song, and then if everybody's in agreement and we
> can get all the proper clearances, mutt and hence all of Cygwin's mail
> functionality is Tishler territory forevermore ;-).

I'm really backed up right now.  Would you be willing to deal with the
currently reported problems?

    o source package seems to be broken
      http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-07/msg01097.html

    o read-only mbox problem under Windows 9x/Me
      http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2002-07/msg00963.html

    o lock count exceeded problem
      http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-07/msg01097.html

I'm willing (without coercion) to assume maintainership after the above
have been resolved.  Otherwise, I'm still willing to assume
maintainership but I cannot guarantee when the above will be resolved.

BTW, does your mutt build display international characters correctly?
Mine does not.

Thanks,
Jason

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RE: New Mutt 1.4 package???

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> Gary,
>

[snip]

> > I've been considering the exact same thing, but I was a bit reluctant
> > to breach the subject, as your cup already looks like it overfloweth
> > ;-).
>
> It is and my shop vac and sump pump are broken too! :,)
>

That's gotta be one heck of a mess! ;-)

[snip]

> > >  Since I already maintain Cygwin fetchmail and procmail
> > > and I'm a "heavy" Cygwin mutt user, this may make sense...
> >
> > That's been my main problem I guess; I'm *not* a heavy mutt user, I
> > just use it occaisionally to send emails from scripts.  I got it to
> > the point where that works reliably from text mounts and then
> > dereliction of duty set in.
>
> I didn't know that you have already dealt with the text vs. binary mode
> issues.  This is good news.
>

I've dealt with the ones I know about, which means mainly getting sending,
receiving, attachments, viewing, and editing working (wow, that sounds like I
did a lot! ;-)).  I have not even looked at things like PGP, fetchmail, or
sendmail interaction.

> > Let's do this (again, if you're willing to take over):  No Sleep
> 'Til 1.4.  I
> > don't hit the sack tonight until I've finished and uploaded the mutt-1.4-1
> > package.  That'll be my swan song, and then if everybody's in
> agreement and we
> > can get all the proper clearances, mutt and hence all of Cygwin's mail
> > functionality is Tishler territory forevermore ;-).
>
> I'm really backed up right now.  Would you be willing to deal with the
> currently reported problems?
>
>     o source package seems to be broken
>       http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-07/msg01097.html
>

Fixed, that was just an upload problem.

>     o read-only mbox problem under Windows 9x/Me
>       http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2002-07/msg00963.html
>

This one's got me a bit stymied at the moment.

>     o lock count exceeded problem
>       http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-07/msg01097.html
>

Looking into this one now.

> I'm willing (without coercion) to assume maintainership after the above
> have been resolved.  Otherwise, I'm still willing to assume
> maintainership but I cannot guarantee when the above will be resolved.
>
> BTW, does your mutt build display international characters correctly?
> Mine does not.
>

Good point, I haven't checked yet.  Well, ok, I'll do one more release before
retiring the jersey ;-).

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