From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14963 invoked by alias); 27 Jun 2003 16:43:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 14956 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2003 16:43:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO GATEWAY01.empirebcbs.com) (216.5.154.164) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 27 Jun 2003 16:43:27 -0000 Received: from 172.29.112.102 by GATEWAY01.empirebcbs.com with ESMTP ( Tumbleweed MMS SMTP Relay (MMS v5.5.2)); Fri, 27 Jun 2003 12:44:53 -0400 Sensitivity: Subject: RE: cygwin presentation ??? To: "Gary R. Van Sickle" cc: cygwin@cygwin.com From: Brian.Kelly@empireblue.com Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:39:00 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 12E2AB0F166468-01-05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2003-06/txt/msg01293.txt.bz2 Appreciate the positive recognition of my humerous effort - for a laugh was the only agenda I was pursuing. For all those who might otherwise question my motives, "political commentary" is often "couched" in humor. The fact that some find it "funny" and others "offensive" means that there is a thread of truth weaving through it. The truth is the truth - whether that truth is self-evident, enlightening, or offensive is left completely up to the interpretation of the individual. Cygwin has some "shortcomings". DUH. Of course - it's evolving. The complaint weaved into the humor is that cygwin is not for "dummies" - and that the dummies find this annoying. I'm "kind" of a dummy myself, so I can relate to the "dummy community's" complaints in this regard. Yet, I know that "dummies" are not the target audience for cygwin but in fact are more recent "interlopers" - if there is such a thing. That's the curse of success - the more powerful cygwin becomes, the more DUMMIES it's gonna attract. So the complaints about it's "user friendliness" are only gonna get more frequent and more vocal as time goes on. So for those who get a little bent when someone complains about the lack of "wizards" and "plug and play", the fact is, such rabble wouldn't even be singing if cygwin wasn't first and foremost AN OUTRAGEOUS SUCCESS. Ah well, there's always the bad that comes with the good ....... Brian Kelly "Gary R. Van Sickle" @cygwin.com on 06/26/2003 10:39:47 PM Sent by: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com To: cygwin@cygwin.com cc: (bcc: Brian Kelly/WTC1/Empire) Subject: RE: cygwin presentation ??? > > List Rule #1 Cygwin has no problems - only issues. > > Rule #2 If you have an "issue" you can "issue" it to the list - > but only if it is a problem. > Wait wait wait - your numbering is off: First rule of Cygwin: You do not talk about Cygwin. Second rule of Cygwin: You DO NOT talk about Cygwin. And one of these IS the new Official Cygwin Slogan: ""U" don't "win" with Cygwin" Perhaps with a subhead: "I'm posixtive about that!" Or: "Cygwin - use it and SHUT UP." Priceless dude! -- Gary R. Van Sickle Brewer. Patriot. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ "WellChoice, Inc." made the following annotations on 06/27/2003 12:44:58 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Attention! This electronic message contains information that may be legally confidential and/or privileged. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Release/Disclosure Statement -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/