From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24667 invoked by alias); 26 Jun 2003 11:33:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 24659 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2003 11:33:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO GATEWAY01.empirebcbs.com) (216.5.154.164) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2003 11:33:55 -0000 Received: from 172.29.112.102 by GATEWAY01.empirebcbs.com with ESMTP ( Tumbleweed MMS SMTP Relay (MMS v5.5.2)); Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:35:31 -0400 Sensitivity: Subject: Re: cygwin presentation ??? To: cygwin@cygwin.com Message-ID: From: Brian.Kelly@Empireblue.com Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:01:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 12E4050935424-01-03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2003-06/txt/msg01216.txt.bz2 Suggested presentation: Hello, First, use the setup and be satisfied with the results - even and especially if it causes your machine to hang and you lose a days worth of work. Cygwin is more important anything else you might have been doing. If you don't like the size of the setup program, right click on desktop, properties, settings, Screen Area - 640x480. If someone else later complains about the screen size, tell them to contact Microsoft. Run setup, if the download dialogue is still cycling after 30 days, it means you're out of warranty. (OK that was a joke, Cygwin has NO warranty!) If you have to ask "how do I use it" - you'll never be able to. "cyg" was chosen instead of "u" because "u" was already taken. Besides "u" don't "win" with cygwin - I'm posixtive about that! List Rule #1 Cygwin has no problems - only issues. Rule #2 If you have an "issue" you can "issue" it to the list - but only if it is a problem. Rule #3 See Rule #1 With cygwin, the "mean"s are always more important than the ends. Case Study #1 You have a production problem that requires a code fix ( a comma needs to be changed to a semi-colon ). When opening the file with Vim, you notice that it took 2 seconds longer than usual to open a 100 meg file. Do you: a: Ignore the delay and use Vim to fix your Production problem b: use cmd /c edit file c: sed 's/,/;/g' file d: Forget your "problem" and start debugging the cygwin "issue" The correct answer was given at the start of this presentation. Finally, if you have an "issue" be prepared to have your sanity questioned first followed by a week of hazing and then a month of silence. By then you should have solved the issue and provided a patch. Finally, I leave you with this directive: Cygwin - use it and SHUT UP. Thank you! "Christopher Faylor" @cygwin.com on 06/26/2003 12:40:34 AM Please respond to cygwin@cygwin.com Sent by: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com To: cygwin@cygwin.com cc: (bcc: Brian Kelly/WTC1/Empire) Subject: Re: cygwin presentation ??? On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:13:19PM -0400, Larry Hall wrote: >R. Scott Baer wrote: >>No ones done a presintation to their local LUG(or anyone else) on >>cygwin ?? > >Sorry no. We're all just users here, not evangelists. ;-) If I gave a presentation I'd end up scaring everyone with my mean visage anyway. Well, that's not entirely true. I gave a presentation about cygwin once and just bored a large group of people. Of course, it eventually became clear that they only spoke French so I felt somewhat vindicated. cgf -- Please use the resources at cygwin.com rather than sending personal email. Special for spam email harvesters: send email to aaaspam@sourceware.org and be permanently blocked from mailing lists at sources.redhat.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ "WellChoice, Inc." made the following annotations on 06/26/2003 07:35:35 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Attention! This electronic message contains information that may be legally confidential and/or privileged. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Release/Disclosure Statement -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/