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I downloaded the latest UPX version, and it crashe= d on startup. I downloaded the Linux version on another host, copied the se= tup program to that host and extracted it there. NOW I can update Cygwin... Brian Cowan HCL Software Technical Specialist, ClearCase SWAT brian.cowan@hcl.com -----Original Message----- From: Jon Turney Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2022 1:12 PM To: cygwin@cygwin.com; Brian Cowan Subject: Re: Does the Cygwin setup program do internal sanity checks on sta= rtup? [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the= sender, Don't click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing emai= l, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] On 25/08/2022 17:52, Adam Dinwoodie wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 08:46:10PM +0000, Brian Cowan via Cygwin wrote: >>Does the Cygwin setup program do internal sanity checks on startup? Not as such. And if it did, the behaviour when the fails should be to say = those checks have failed, rather than crash apparently randomly... >> Why would I ask that question? Because I have a host running a >> hodgepodge of company-mandated security software, and -- only on that >> host -- the Cygwin setup tool crashes... >> >> Oddities: >> 1. The crash generates 3 dump files when I use procdump, which is odd >> since I "normally" only get 2 identical dumps from procdump. >> 2. A Websense ForcePoint DLP DLL is loaded in the process space, >> apparently through DLL injection. >> 3. There seem to be 3 threads started, only one of which is the setup >> program's "main" function. I had to get that out of a Process Monitor >> log since the dump files are largely content free. >> 4. The crash is unique to the setup program. Nothing else appears to >> fail. >> >> The crash is an "illegal instruction" dump, which of course doesn't >> make a lot of sense... This could be one of the other security >> packages/policies on this host being "helpful." >> >> I need ammunition to take to my internal Mordak's so I can update >> Cygwin... Sure I can use WSL, but not for everything. > > This sounds like classic "BLODA": applications that interfere with how > Cygwin provides *nix compatibility. There's more info in the FAQs at > https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fcygw > in.com%2Ffaq%2Ffaq.html%23faq.using.bloda&data=3D05%7C01%7Cbrian.cow > an%40hcl.com%7C0bc9158dc671450d207e08da86bcde4c%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4= ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C637970442994701514%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4w= LjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&= sdata=3Dk%2FghFN8u0Yp5xDsUp8fJ61uceTUpwLEKdF8SRMCFGOk%3D&reserved=3D0, = but in short it seems very likely that this problem is caused by some secur= ity software running on this system. This does indeed sound like interference by some other software. But the setup program is not a Cygwin executable (it's not linked with the = cygwin DLL because (i) it's not present before setup has installed it, and = (ii) updating that DLL from setup while setup is using is problematic... Note that the Cygwin setup executable as distributed is packed with UPX, wh= ich could very well interfere with the expectations of a poorly written inj= ected DLL. (You can reverse that compression by running 'upx -d' on the setup executable) ::DISCLAIMER:: ________________________________ The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and inte= nded for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed= to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted,= lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in tran= smission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) sha= ll therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affil= iates. 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