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* RE: How to install packages...
@ 2002-09-20 12:53 Richardson, Tony
  2002-09-20 15:02 ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread
From: Richardson, Tony @ 2002-09-20 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bkeener, cygwin

I guess that you could untar everything appropriately,
but you'd need to run the post-install scripts.

Instead of that I installed on one machine and then
copied everything over to a network share. This allows Cygwin to
be run from any machine on the network without doing an install
on the local machine.

Setup also creates the proper mounts.  To get around that
I have the user click on a shortcut that points
to a batch file containing:

   call \\cecsfp\cygwin\scripts\mkusrmnts 2> nul:
   \\cecsfp\cygwin\bin\rxvt -tn xterm -e /bin/bash --login -i

where mkusrmnts is another batch file that sets up all of the
required mount points correctly.  (All as user mounts so that no
special privileges are required.)

I also modified /etc/profile to mount /home over a cygwin subdirectory
in the user's Windows HOMEPATH.  To get X to run correctly I found that
I had to mount /tmp over a tmp subdirectory under their cygwin
subdirectory.  Now students can get a Cygwin session or start up an X
windows session from any Windows machine on our campus.  Everything
seems
to work fine.  (I've been wondering recently whether each user needs
their own /var mount also.  I need to find out which programs
write to /var.)

I'd be happy to send anyone who is interested the mkusrmnts.bat and
profile
files that make this work.

The network share is a mirror of the cygwin install on my machine.
After
I update my machine I user rsync to update the network share (excluding
the /home, /tmp, /usr/lib, /usr/bin, /usr/tmp and /usr/var directories
and
a few files in /etc).

Tony Richardson

> From: Brian Keener
> 
> As a side note to what Chris wrote:
> 
> How did you install Cygwin without using the setup program?  
> Does it work?

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* Re: How to install packages...
@ 2002-09-23  7:10 John Vincent
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: John Vincent @ 2002-09-23  7:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: soren_andersen, cygwin

Hi,

It's always a bit risky saying what "most" software
does, but the software I've installed on MS Windows
tends to do one of two things:
1. The "setup" program detects if it's doing an initial
setup, if not, it presents options for 'update 'or 'uninstall'.
2. The "setup" program installs menu options to 'update'
or 'uninstall' as part of the installation.

If the cygwin setup does not do either of these things, then
it's not going to be "intuitive".

/John Vincent.

>From: Soren A <soren_andersen@fastmail.fm>
>To: cygwin@cygwin.com
>Subject: Re: How to install packages...
>Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 03:24:46 +0000 (UTC)
>
>Christopher Faylor <cgf-cygwin@cygwin.com> wrote in
>news:20020920195321.GD28279@redhat.com:
>
> > We've seen it more than once.  People don't understand that the same
> > program they used to install cygwin can be used to update their
> > installation with new packages.
>
>Chris is correct in this observation.
>
>As far as I could could parse the subsequent articles, there was some
>derision expressed inreaction to the idea of updating the main Cygwin
>page to clarify this. There shouldn't be derision, IMHO.
>
>*Most* software that MS Windows users get exposed to, that is
>distributed as a zip archive and that typically has a file named
>"setup.exe" inside that archive, works in such a way that the setup.exe
>is _only_ for doing the one-time installation of the program files (and
>writing of Registry entries if that is involved, and misc other things
>like mangling the machine's autoexec.bat might happen too...). The user
>might as well delete it after that (WinZip usually will do so
>automatically for it and everything else that was part of the
>installation system). Point: It is completely counter-intuitive for *MS
>Windows users* (as opposed to those fully initiated into the *nix
>priesthood somewhere along the line) to expect to run a "setup.exe"
>program more than once (Unless they've reformatted their HD as Windoze
>tends to periodically require).
>
>It's always been a little problem that the particular name "setup.exe"
>was chosen for the Cygwin installation manager (IMHO). You don't run
>"setup" on a Debian GNU/Linux box and you don't run "setup" on a RedHat
>Linux box (You run 'apt-get ...' or 'dselect ...' and 'rpm ...'). These
>are distinctively-named systems. Lacking ambiguity. 'CINMAN' anyone? It has
>a nice, provocative ring to it... ('CIM' was already taken, long ago, in
>the days of yore before AOL swallowed the World...)
>
>Of course, it's too late now to do anything about the name of
>"setup.exe". *Except* adding an explanation that "you'll use it to
>change or update your Cygwin system installation on an ongoing basis"
>for the main Cygwin page, right under the "Install Cygwin Now" icon(s)
>or close by.
>
>   Soren A
>
>
>
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* How to install packages...
@ 2002-09-20  7:03 sara svensson
  2002-09-20  9:49 ` Christopher Faylor
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread
From: sara svensson @ 2002-09-20  7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

I have installed cygwin and now I whould like to install some packages from 
the page:
http://cygwin.com/packages/

I can't find any information in the cygwin webpage that describes how to 
install these packages. Can someone tell me how to do this? Please explain 
in detail.

Thanks!





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2002-09-20 12:53 How to install packages Richardson, Tony
2002-09-20 15:02 ` Christopher Faylor
2002-09-20 17:56   ` Robert Collins
2002-09-20 18:36     ` Gary R. Van Sickle
2002-09-20 18:42       ` Igor Pechtchanski
2002-09-20 18:46         ` Bruce Alderson
2002-09-20 18:55           ` Christopher Faylor
2002-09-20 18:58             ` Bruce Alderson
2002-09-20 19:05               ` Christopher Faylor
2002-09-20 19:15                 ` Bruce Alderson
2002-09-20 20:25                   ` Christopher Faylor
2002-09-20 20:38                   ` Robert Collins
2002-09-21 15:49                     ` Robert Collins
2002-09-21 17:58                       ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-09-21 17:59                         ` Robert Collins
2002-09-21 14:01             ` Nicholas Wourms
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2002-09-21 13:18             ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-09-20 18:51       ` Robert Collins
2002-09-20 18:47     ` Christopher Faylor
2002-09-20 19:00       ` Robert Collins
2002-09-21  0:10   ` Soren A
2002-09-21  6:13     ` Soren A
2002-09-21  6:32       ` Robert Collins
2002-09-21 11:28         ` Soren A
2002-09-21 15:36           ` Robert Collins
2002-09-21 18:37           ` Christopher Faylor
2002-09-21 13:14         ` Soren A
2002-09-21 14:37           ` Nicholas Wourms
2002-09-21 15:34           ` Max Bowsher
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2002-09-23  7:10 John Vincent
2002-09-20  7:03 sara svensson
2002-09-20  9:49 ` Christopher Faylor
2002-09-20 10:18   ` Brian Keener

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