From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x532.google.com (mail-ed1-x532.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::532]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 058A93857C49 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 15:07:17 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 058A93857C49 Received: by mail-ed1-x532.google.com with SMTP id o18so4569557edq.4 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 08:07:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:mime-version :content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iBOjmIrZ8WGmLYZ4a/K26/gxOSFV9CLXfLo9st7I9JM=; b=jvvaIXEGkl1TstyoIHVHVJ9wMTXS6C7hk+qcNFJTcGHDJvn3WLlufIz36CXj0fuCQX i1pnlYCsHYOVqn//qZQ1sIc/5aXD7SpmV53cC7o+7WWT+wN5GR8qWMycMP7/mz4HsUeO VvzxLrMCIMspVjDT3VeyioL9z9SWqM/sC6krXsfO5plcj4vSEsqW1bkmEzY/GYL79PeH EXX77SWPctAdMwxT5QfXOvtW4AJ4Tkv++EsYRvilAVo1RikbJNTJQd5Ur347GO6VCvra hTZSXAvs1i1BQVT3ibTsaSZYmC8Y8T7WF2GMViOp6Hwm/KSh9gEagDqpuFSchrzac0VV eoVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530LX/j7yS66GOEu8Jh1VUlCU6Og+i8x8wArQ8vF8lIi6U0qz3lv zB6CO0BYELu7yFJcCvUPVJZcKd2mdII= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxKi1d1kkWSVpio74pdsX0JM1Eszrg2MXOv0BAJILxylprYPzJjOBRo6W6yYa0+eywsNG7ZAg== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:dcc7:: with SMTP id w7mr7768573edu.54.1603552035624; Sat, 24 Oct 2020 08:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2a02:8109:9f40:4576::b53b? ([2a02:8109:9f40:4576::b53b]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o11sm2443941ejd.60.2020.10.24.08.07.14 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 24 Oct 2020 08:07:14 -0700 (PDT) To: cygwin@cygwin.com From: Federico Kircheis Subject: Interaction with non-cygwin programs Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 17:04:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 15:07:18 -0000 I've lately updated Windows to the latest version, and cygwin too (I had something previous to 3.0). I've read that interaction with non-cygwin programs should be better because of the console-helper. But in my daily usage the integration is worse, programs like tmux or even less seems to have more issues than before. For example /cygdrive/c/Program\ Files/TortoiseSVN/bin/svn log | less used to work correctly. Currently if I press arrow down or up less does not scroll up or down anymore and "ESC[" appears briefly at the top-left of the console. Of course i could install subversion inside cygwin, as svn log | less works without issues, but it's just an example. git, adb, and other programs trigger the same behavior. Also less is not the only program, tmux for example has similar issues. I believe the underlying issue is console-helper but I'm not sure how I could test it, as I did, for example, not find how I could disable it, or if the issue is already known. I'm able to reproduce the issue on a clean machine, so it should not be a configuration issue on my side.