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Mon, 14 May 2018 14:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: CYGWIN 2.8 To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <18bf68cd-7681-2dcc-f360-252cbfeab7a7@t-online.de> <4c236fdb-c6c7-64a9-5a9b-4ee9d05b938b@gmail.com> From: cyg Simple Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=cygsimple@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFW7cuMBEADJg9disJJSBGRlDxdAt2hR6I6Ruzm8vw+zpjEGLsYyWiBhoLV1EEmHLyhh bdPEJx0DU2sPVbTcESRiYaTOVK6wJQMFur+WZ5cUkIXfJBQPUPRUcxbjrY8MtWYguhACSP/T ZGjtxl9w92fGYLTBDqVmOb9rjEo9UbmZwDTCYhjkAvlXR/K+q6+jGgrXLIC1CpiWqE1l2yH9 RGclbNc3Yjq9RJgqiHI+VgRa2P16NteTLSrD428YJS5p8rFIYngZooNClCJsrSAZCJ2abQ40 0S+kP/lcoSph5JXIDAL6sB6hUZg9sVpL4iU2Qsm7EKDBgvw72+AGH+ApxEgijYCPe8O1aybd qq2KWOeIg40gAua3ZPq7XIGd4TGIA0kzAK0wnE1LjSWF4h/bkf8CmGn3s7upAkNa75XOKApa V2cVMmi6qdcgjCDkNQbbgvv0V4VmqQYlFXYLfzOZZB3LgydeoMERX+74aVEHKv5PxEbfwLnv 29nsKvB7yLhfYSbaHQPOIqkgMuw+bx8m1Zh9IKJv0/O8Ta/yvyW2sHWMcAAmd4t1gykbZCZa NbvKAhvIP9NWjREae+jjsJJj98mbvsI8pCFbc2coHWNAk4JyBjDcMFrhTNA+8+D5RveRERrc yFu2qU6Bl7Bz2U1VLsmo2HcmRQRO6L0CwwsIlgeZGSmyJxPzzwARAQABzStFYXJuZXN0IEJv eWQgPGVib3lkNTNlbnRlcnByaXNlc0BnbWFpbC5jb20+wsF/BBMBCAApBQJVu3LjAhsjBQkJ ZgGABwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQcYOkK+VgItVscRAApR0Iad65JnDa 7RlhEducTNM836qBbqcsQSPoEGJ5sNhHP9VF2jB2Kd4JONyksLyVD/nU+hJwTB4SnUC5dwRo 0a4HQbYSaiLoXZNlRGGP++ACy7E0BT+pvV9gd9tmLtYDvuHzEbEY70nmt8FNrheEznv6CSss jY6uGDNfXV+7Hh+xZJ9z71Gb3mO6byz5EIDz+iFZU6VpIyYVUFnyR5fvkJwNqFoOVqc5TqkR mDWWtb5nEYLMNmDcSbh1lY7YEUfHFqhT++O/gXTv9hZ5jU7kuA9OYkc4HY1ctRI3xuu+YzBY NwzEeKmdC1JK2XXERHxQGvtru+G9mwAdFQ9TAiQinsMqAJfDW/WX5eaEaTrtkizWiTM93eJ+ zXpyBtxWjdQUNpYqEysWnNz0ZA0IB6P4Py1Gdts/T0i8tDE9C9UiqbZSj7VnkP4vwI311RmP ooXuzjpOc4RFTbYdBiobpy+RLyIZSMEqRd51fveXZPCGzs3BDdNX48c2biwLVQ3MNpCKU9D3 5I0Kd6vdST4UTQrQ9Gco0o60M9+0gi/YHHAol7/XTW64Me1lj5ELsUSWnRI4xEQbCbOKRa15 LRxRoVqsVOeZqUlKI9AvrVaSaJz+PkaORcHFWIWnS+jzRc+vpvO9vbg3AoZvKrr2Rkhq/558 RTxZJz8UlUHeC+PVN7ai8GzOwU0EVbty4wEQAOu9QeDKIYUr+dRp/tNWRIt+MdHB9vxAnRIm 8fEC7/LlYu5HhdfBk9ol1EVeuQRWobipWmkPvIBBVKNFAC4yjV09Bp4s+AEIAkHD6JyQkbwd j9urYHf14RGdfJMZaA8B6vQpgywoQ51qLn1DqzEfPzeUVYTBoqDiTrfNA4roSvq3MWWl51CM plVALm57UIDnK5+8Dlgw235iu2BuzY0iq5wCeGGcZzTruudSwQ656uvcExLSVRZFuHy2tT1Z Bug2ADy99Z6qnGObiHAlQQj2JfHzszPOAJZX8k/ou4VB1WToCzIGCCMgSvrCqiMCFPj55R+s ArEz84sczVpmwujWwS2coxAVWOUVj8a+/NzZoqgi2GxjNHVNHJir4K3fMm9aADHRpysVUTdw fLJ9ya1tpCbrijJGhhUJBxuCdbUYtM55gOTAod9M+9fPk+QMt4MqxFf9yJXHKSVojjFnuUln m156Aocthzl2KezLxnde44FSblHDG7LtcSxhI0CmDS/lWZl5FPswDxjexBt8uaAwCgJUdr7x u6Q3ydTst6UXrzEowtKo7utm8L823gKcNjktKhDGHpddseC5RgPIWwp7/QDb4uiPw2Y6UI3n BH6x7dYcV0bQfsHtJ1ytdWhI5GgmPZsWoLBHtZg/065RHJpe1Dl5Orv1gtRTyMbk0iIoutYJ ABEBAAHCwWUEGAEIAA8FAlW7cuMCGwwFCQlmAYAACgkQcYOkK+VgItXjzw/+IStc4Aw/7OVU aFRBzURiIAJw8i83z3Uf87iwOurygkJ881UMEpvRUJDbEI1HQg3kyT95jw9/Oz3vMXXp+6EH cGgkLI1yJwih1GEF2MXKx5qgETWgM1DDpsW6Xhyty/hX4UW/dRlgDBh8iow7SziOc7mLwXWN 50ejMpvN7Ve2ZhqYucO5FLa6hnTssUv9pyucwuzDjmkcHn4GGeLV7xjanpMp9fMKLcOHnWJd 4IhL2AQUIVL6D1W87x9MqvbhuN9vYTro+adu4/5pogFu/oJVd0MO8GRU2TGdDac4pboAh8dW n7/PlAjvSaA9VWqR/kOQKGyOkFZXFgFtuPWUbedGasF6T+vJocWLz/R18FLB6p7EInQLGMWg wGsTPx//LTR5MItkY82S3yWiLFIqep9tz2AfSFA8OmMt89DcAtNaueK5RmhlaqLGExrd5UDh 9DEdG0tpWfTT50qekW9xvQM0BX//jKwZmW0BBpesbuvPT/2o88k6IVZ36KocuZ2bOIPILi32 wg+5v1su/z8BRNE2vrXyEBUtHkSNxAfJO9jDWlqec3RAmyvHFNORmrT2jwBYn6tWRk1frBVh rQ3yLvQckFdqNQzJ9xxtLpa+g6QvjEDsWx3edL7PHaIqtxe5F9nMnEKEI4f/92ssTst9Ot3Z 57mvQ2yi7GXAyBGBmMvhVno= Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 23:49:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2018-05/txt/msg00188.txt.bz2 On 5/14/2018 3:29 PM, Lee wrote: > On 5/14/18, cyg Simple wrote: >> On 5/8/2018 3:28 PM, Hans-Bernhard Bröker wrote: >>> Am 08.05.2018 um 13:22 schrieb David Spencer: >>>> Morning, >>>> >>>> I am trying to get CYGWIN Version 2.8, this is the only version >>>> approved for our system at present, >> >> So your company is stating it wants to use buggy and susceptible >> applications. I don't think so. > > And I don't think you've ever experienced the joys of being a USG contractor :) > Thank the heavens, I have not; however, I have been a contractor where the contracting firm places the same restrictions on it's employees but that doesn't matter. > Go back to the original post & look at their email address. I'm > betting they're a contractor. > So what! If you follow the correct policies and don't come off crass in your request to install software to get the work done then it shouldn't be too difficult. >> Go back to the IT security team and >> state that 2.10 is the latest version of Cygwin and ask if it is okay. > > Which is assuming that whatever person on the IT security team you ask > has the authority to override policy. Staff _follows_ policy, they > don't make it. > Yes, I should have worded it slightly better, you must follow the official process of getting the approved list updated. >> If not then ask them to provide you with a suitable version. > > You seem to be under the impression that contractors are allowed to > make waves and stay employed there. > I worked as a contractor for many years, now retired, and "made waves" successfully by being thorough in what I was stating with facts. If you prove that you know what you're talking about then people listen even to contractors. >>> Providing that is, to a great extent, actually the job of whoever >>> approves versions of Cygwin for you. > > I'd say it's the job of whoever came up with the policy of having an > 'approved software' list in the first place to also come up with a > policy of keeping the list current but whatever.. > Perhaps but I'm guessing the policy creator may no longer be around to improve the policy. It's now up to a department of people to make those changes. > > It'd be nice to think the situation has changed in the years since I > was in the same position but apparently not. What worked for me was > opening a support ticket with the group that keeps the approved > software list and asking what it takes to get the current version of > cygwin approved. > > There's forms to be filled out, procedures to be followed, and in a > few weeks the current version of cygwin is on the approved list. > Yes, exactly there are forms to be filled out but that doesn't mean those forms just be filled out and not followed up by other communication. -- cyg Simple -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple