From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 129800 invoked by alias); 25 May 2016 09:28:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 129785 invoked by uid 89); 25 May 2016 09:28:41 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=lloyd, D*yahoo.co.uk, Wood, sk:lloydw X-HELO: mail-wm0-f41.google.com Received: from mail-wm0-f41.google.com (HELO mail-wm0-f41.google.com) (74.125.82.41) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES128-GCM-SHA256 encrypted) ESMTPS; Wed, 25 May 2016 09:28:31 +0000 Received: by mail-wm0-f41.google.com with SMTP id z87so54611092wmh.0 for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 02:28:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dW9SMd/w7VOd1GUsxTumaLa4gMlsUeIGDZzPmja3KYs=; b=coDQ6b+FAD3nNENbxSRgFjb/UiJOtwnZfPaNmLazPrIEHpaqZQujArnn+qSOHIjOjO EixBzjIENfKA6lf3RsdNycXGh5h9MP1QPs1J942BxfIgsraakCKSboLw0HOLSjOl87tn C16SxWhBrr3cEbBtPZasucECORxlMS9w9aiEybi0L8XYZg8luR+Gw1w9fzpVVz/4WZJ2 FRXmy3lyHN4HbTa+bsNO/Bf4ZyUmXsT1qJT9lJu6QnBcTn0Sf3nFPz1/MkBr+uq5x2MQ DBTxDlkdjDWZG8Fd/Fm84dD+Tjx8YCLee8NkjKRLwrzOzHVvbQLG+16QCZfvSMTGgjya W+oA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKd+9K/Jk83vjCqcz0H1LnHuOUTI3ein3WHyeBAAwruoU0FegMaYAJKbzyQR1l9bQ== X-Received: by 10.194.91.194 with SMTP id cg2mr2853265wjb.47.1464168508062; Wed, 25 May 2016 02:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.21.188.188] ([62.154.173.198]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id u6sm23720622wmd.21.2016.05.25.02.28.27 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 25 May 2016 02:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: changes in 32-bit Cygwin OpenGL causing crashes? To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <538382235.210794.1464156496492.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <538382235.210794.1464156496492.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> From: Marco Atzeri Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 13:53:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <538382235.210794.1464156496492.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2016-05/txt/msg00307.txt.bz2 On 25/05/2016 08:08, lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk wrote: >> It seems still the same problem with dri-drivers >> https://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2016-04/msg00283.html >> >> probably caused by LLVM 3.7 > > Unfortunately, the dri-driver versions available in the installer > depend on LLVM 3.7, so, even though reverting back to LLVM 3.5 > is offered when you select llvm, you can't pull in a dri-driver > that works with that older version of LLVM to test that hypothesis. > So, not much point to offering that older version of LLVM. > > Regardless of the fact that OpenGL is broken (again), this is > really a problem with Cygwin as a perennial work-in-progress > and its (lack of) version control. Feel free to propose a solution compatible with the lack of dedicated man power. The package per maintainer statistics can highlight the workload issue: 2406 Yaakov Selkowitz 171 Jari Aalto 142 Achim Gratz 141 Marco Atzeri 82 Ken Brown 70 Dr. Volker Zell 44 Achim Gratz/Yaakov Selkowitz 39 Achim Gratz/Ken Brown 36 Corinna Vinschen 26 Andrew Schulman 22 Jonathan Yong 22 David Rothenberger 20 Eric Blake 19 Jon Turney 17 David Stacey .... Total 3388 Of course not all the packages weight the same; Jon and Corinna have very heavy loads > I'd like to be able to download a stable-known-to-work-on > a-specified date golden-master Cygwin, without incremental > upgrades, and revert to that known-to-work Cygwin if needs > be. Once every six months? I'd be good with that. Feel free to use the Time Machine http://www.fruitbat.org/Cygwin/#cygwintimemachine kindly provided by Peter > > Lloyd Wood > http://savi.sf.net/ > > -- > Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ > Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html > Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple