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[217.237.88.192]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id oi24sm719983ejb.69.2020.09.02.14.17.55 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 02 Sep 2020 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: wish8.6 perfect in Cygwin32, misbehaves in Cygwin64 To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: From: Marco Atzeri Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 23:17:54 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: it Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, FREEMAIL_FROM, KAM_NUMSUBJECT, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 21:17:58 -0000 On 02.09.2020 22:46, Fergus Daly via Cygwin wrote: > Can't entirely recall* when wish8.4 was versioned up to the current wish8.6 in Cygwin, > or whether there was an intermediate wish8.5 - I think it must be nearly a decade ago, or possibly > longer - but I do remember that > 1. wish8.4 "worked" in bash and rxvt terminals (I think all this preceded mintty) AND also in xterm > 2. wish8.[56] "fails" in bash and mintty terminals and insists on DISPLAY being set, i.e. requires XWin > (by which I mean wish was the driver for Tcl/Tk menus, windows, other displays). > Actually I hung on to the components that comprise wish8.4 and toggle between them at will and can > confirm the truth of (1) and (2) above. > Generally though, I guess users have upgraded to wish8.6 long since and if they use it to provide Tcl/Tk > menus (?) or sidebar Help Tcl/Tk windows (?) are used to requiring e.g. xterm in XWin in order to do so. > can you please provide a test case ? If I remember right the graphic was moved long time ago from GDI to X11 due to the burden to do maintain the GDI fork. > ALL THIS in Cygwin-32. > > Recent unconnected threads in this list have persuaded me to trial Cygwin-64 (and, if happy, I'll jettison the > Cygwin-32 platform). I have installed it identically (see setup -P below). > The many contexts in which wish8.6 has worked properly in Cygwin-32 are, for me, failing uniformly in > Cygwin-64. By this I mean, Tcl/Tk menus are mutely failing to appear, Tcl/Tk Help windows are mutely failing > to appear. > Can't think what I'm getting wrong. But a good first step would be: have any of you, in advancing from Cygwin-32 > to what was intended to provide identical functionality in Cygwin-64, experienced similar unexplained glitches, > and managed to solve them? Or is this experience unique? If you can help with this specific Tcl/Tk problem, that > would be perfect! almost all has been ported from 32 to 64 and works The very few exceptions are dead applications > BTW I use > setup-x86[_64] -P ..,..,tcl-tix,tcl-tk-devel,..,.. > to build the supporting platforms. > Thank you! > > * "Can't entirely recall .. .." (line 1): > Typing "site:cygwin.com searchstring" into the Google search bar used to yield pages of output, including hits for > very specific strings e.g. "site:cygwin.com fergus grap" to remind myself what I asked about grap as long ago as > 2001 - and, much more helpfully, what somebody kindly answered. Now, after a measly trickle of hits, Google > explains the paucity with a reference to data protection. I know I asked specifically about the loss of versatility > with wish8.4 at the time, but cannot find the thread. > Is there a vehicle which still permits an exhaustive search of the entire Cygwin project mailing archive? you can still download all the raw data :-( https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/