From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.12]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E47943857C5F for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:23:25 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org E47943857C5F Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=SystematicSw.ab.ca Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=brian.inglis@systematicsw.ab.ca Received: from [192.168.1.104] ([24.64.172.44]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id fdLnksqZPtdldfdLokt9gg; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 23:23:25 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=INe8tijG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=5fb60f5d a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:117 a=kiZT5GMN3KAWqtYcXc+/4Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=94nOnFI1EgyDtX4ev68A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: From: Brian Inglis Organization: Systematic Software Subject: Re: g++ and c++17 filesystem Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 23:23:23 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfK4gfizh5tgVN1NR7vwNyq7sTHElkIiiRmrKPiXLzh3HZWDG8lt3Tz+Z01XNNaLYtT0Lj0tzEF6gnAlxhMQscJLLQnNNhXcHEkTnM8Q3fFcj/3AoKL1v Qw9Hxa6Ni/xKTdXAjjoYr5q4HTA7hVbjmacu4fbJjYs6X/pbrDJpvg2equBx8wb+2AIB8+JE/L3ZZ/pkvuFXil4nxKrAU19Te68= X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 06:23:27 -0000 On 2020-11-18 17:08, Doug Henderson via Cygwin wrote: > On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 13:50, Kristian Ivarsson wrote: >> The only purpose CYGWIN have is to make/build posix-applications runnable >> on Windows and applications usually have user defined input, such as paths >> etc, and on Windows that input is usually Windows-native-paths unless you >> educate operators/users to enter paths with /cygdrive/... > > I use CYGWIN to work around a stupid design decision made by a small > time OS developer more than 40 years ago, and inherited by an OS that > did not even have directories in its first release. > Actually, most of those design decisions were made in the 1950s-1960s by scientific then mainframe OS designers in multiprocessing then multiuser environments, and the short sighted decisions were made to get things working quickly by people without much design or systems background (BGIII^Wcough!) in some of the smaller minicomputer then microcomputer adaptations, which were often frankly PoS hacks, and triumphs of salesmanship over competency. ;^> -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. [Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]