From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29022 invoked by alias); 5 May 2018 03:41:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 29008 invoked by uid 89); 5 May 2018 03:41:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=suppliers, agencies, institutions, H*r:ip*192.168.1.100 X-HELO: smtp-out-so.shaw.ca Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (HELO smtp-out-so.shaw.ca) (64.59.136.138) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Sat, 05 May 2018 03:41:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([24.64.240.204]) by shaw.ca with ESMTP id Eo4XfOc77SzNNEo4YfyDYz; Fri, 04 May 2018 21:41:23 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=KuxjJ1eN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=MVEHjbUiAHxQW0jfcDq5EA==:117 a=MVEHjbUiAHxQW0jfcDq5EA==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=DkV0aSFKAAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=Oxo__p4zVSx4SgVxQyEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=eZdSD12XwVLS6TPX-W1c:22 Reply-To: Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca Subject: Re: Request new Ruby release To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <5aed015b.1c69fb81.6a87b.524b@mx.google.com> From: Brian Inglis Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 May 2018 03:41:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5aed015b.1c69fb81.6a87b.524b@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfJEJVo6THN+0ExPnb6Mo6XFDRZwWSa6X3c24ZRrmHrFKcTXiSiJg7uqj7kEjRzjTmjiM+NBtRI5rvA0uK5S8jmA6GrxgjHWSbhD4ZxoeHToJ6XBU3drr KZZpFeNu6EYP/4pJwbo9rWgbwkdaeopykStkDWdgagf6EtGOMkBO/DYb+NNK7weRyXatZcznf68R6A== X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2018-05/txt/msg00083.txt.bz2 On 2018-05-04 18:56, Steven Penny wrote: > sorry, did you really just invoke fortran as a serious argument? fortran is > arguably the oldest programming language still in use, if you can even call it > that. you can't even do HTTP with it: > http://rosettacode.org/wiki/HTTPS#Fortran That's what web servers are for, written in more suitable languages, but search for fortran+fastcgi+nginx, or have a look at https://github.com/rlcarino/heeds for a production GPL3 web based Fortran app. > youll notice that ADA already got the axe: > http://github.com/cygwinports/cygwin64-gcc/blob/master/cygwin64-gcc.cygport#L52 On Cygwin, but GNAT is still part of GCC 9. ADA is heavily used in safety critical, RT, embedded avionics and ATC where the focus is on decades long, exhaustive documentation archival, maintenance, support, and testing of almost static libraries and tools after release, requirements for which GNU projects are ill-suited, but in which aerospace and gov/mil project companies and their suppliers have long experience. Cobol has similar requirements for bread and butter enterprise and government financial systems, with high requirements for maintainability to handle legislative and business changes, and long term platform compatibility and support. > this could happen to fortran as well. I thought I'd have seen that by now, but there's too much carefully validated (parallel) HPC (especially modelling) and scientific code, libraries, apps, and systems used by various government agencies, institutions, and departments for heavy or important computation in many fields, that it doesn't look like it'll ever be allowed to die ;^> -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple