From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30332 invoked by alias); 6 May 2018 05:54:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Received: (qmail 30238 invoked by uid 89); 6 May 2018 05:54:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=defend, heed, aforementioned, cygwin-announce X-HELO: mx1.redhat.com Received: from mx3-rdu2.redhat.com (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (66.187.233.73) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Sun, 06 May 2018 05:54:29 +0000 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx04.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7CB9DF0425 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 05:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.10.120.23] (ovpn-120-23.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.120.23]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F73B2023456 for ; Sun, 6 May 2018 05:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Request new Ruby release To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <5aed55ad.13d1370a.52727.af57@mx.google.com> From: Yaakov Selkowitz Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=yselkowitz@cygwin.com; keydata= xsDiBEkGONwRBADdCtCJumlgGFA2u2ZissSRq9NZ/76RTKZuUrO68Mnc7lMbQcnMPL3+ZYED 1Bt0dYY+SR0cdxUQvatybTdEY94FC5QOBZxyRvaSGTJKAqRu0ksLdi4R+2nqnv1vIajaNeM4 oMgIqUuruh/VUGaOX0bigfKCofInhY1zJXN3jhr1awCghfKh6EVeHKzfK7lQXqP1AtowzXkD /AjnIIJHDYioqpmv+t3EiQBAx/UVsBC4lekRTYspWvfSJNEkC2dlWrhqAkPTFTDnRPO/IsgC /AbsRr+5dLbpge62cyRWlCByuJneZhaNJM++tBSKYCNrmWP/cuELm7MxCFj2RC4CWyI7iosJ wnG21UlENFf+2MFTubdhvHAqkaKGA/9MK+AIGNqe2Ts+8k13jwSHelPT8njjmPpoXyoznnoF +nl/Qb/RoCKpnuYK2wJEKaaaBj5q7jmmVMCu6cshlp1aIV11o9OYiuGR8CXnGSmcGyLHmONO UOwwllrV1IZ5KcMEpjoVzssJmA8RFklwCvNmHNgVeLqh1zZw99Ec3NeX/c0oWWFha292IFNl bGtvd2l0eiA8eXNlbGtvd2l0ekBjeWd3aW4uY29tPsJiBBMRAgAiBQJTxw37AhsDBgsJCAcD AgYVCAIJCgsEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRD/IK+aZu4flE1cAJ9BGWneJyk0U5ntd6lzkTx1xN03 zwCdGqSKk9eiXeaHXel4wIzbDtnUCA7Ow00ESQY43BAQAOLQuG17nvOa03A6fznr8KFqBB3N T+QxnIhzZcxiXMlC6FTFRLxnVWuMbYzXqiKMq/5U9h3sIQje7MjwdBZbQeaD38FXdegwf0x0 PKqRG/9ujJzk9IIXnsdRKS4+1+LRX0zfsKiM+aENufYAgYJ8oJECFNPTa/GP7lbM7Z826YCG SURndq0ryQUOYEgdOugKDB+hmb7lhicWKB6X9ShJSAJoM85lz2pz6Uwt254eTVyEYelZHWGx UrU47PNpbSmIZtpkERHHJM92JAZn0+J5oOt4m9STxfIBMWkarD0oX8C/7TyGlaJ309WRTVtS h1HeeI0fkBSCvh1uyPsERqM4kRWAf5/W4IxxIAEup9HOBYyBxlmtEG0lS3LVG1bamO00SuDM TvIE8DXGqBZSNJtiPnL+cxPMKZHFzoN+xCGlR0Wgyms4DCXZFMli4XX3UIBrkQp614GKhCCN 8yM5MQYUn3Z02rpZwPKpTNGHq4sUYi96Db54Y6gnolht/zQ/AXjW15/xD//jXh3euJktJ0Fa C1QCHHOk3AhO88Y+H1LdUqdi0ZB17upu+KhyrVq+9kioB1Q4leuIsIwiLuiQTOpk9HozMy9X G+H08+QaNcI47RwCW3LLKW38VUXW1d3lgpR1jMTSwr4RsSa0JG3oFerhRoCOedicgZAA846X GVRJIy4zAAMFEACgo7Cy/EWXGbjJBALywSvxaV8ICvtdmZWtFQusSCX6TKFgbBwFrTEe+glS Ws9Tc7vZtMa8qVB+4ylXwdrDh7LhdJO/Ty+CxDeKXRPwFvIjnYbMKp5uE1V+XDIu9CC2Zcou DBB4F8BsXCrA0QVQHVaOPLt2FT+WrYiI/B4Bv+rkP44r71m6lSFEPMN8llZYBK3xMZB4byIp JmSjdtV6Uctz/gaWscmxF9LoJOiEZE3HOov4OuUW2l0FJbqwXXYQ2Rovd58EIhhvwKqRho0I AB8+o/FKK3DjTT2G4QoXI5xz5Lv5/fEm4QqtC2hGrVeBjzv1t6b0b5zpDApmg+QR/XCVn367 uENVldBaDbR3Q+cpFungC5TpCrdrRsgKR3dCHvgo3UHlRQ1GKz391ZsQ84Now6/CtLTNywBT d4JsIZYAYDvFiXlQtGTioG0rxO204QlMYOGmh1eluARpLmYHAPwpWgItPm/tEI0g0pSA3Cl1 8n5OZVun7b1i8puMJ2ni/ZYmbvLDSJIaTbKK5/k+3Zw0kOV8QIhpVsNlb9WyXxY/4alMBAE/ Pq3n3MVnnJr2iEzDoF/kGi36gfUUqUiB3voy5CmQrcyiSPVmEdaT9/4KS5nGU44No4Q5wiyQ WLmoL3KW0JaDzc2loMbwteF215vMx3Mi0tZtA+455ZF9E5rIgMJJBBgRAgAJBQJJBjjcAhsM AAoJEP8gr5pm7h+UgsoAn3+cGxZsDkSh/8Qayutwz+E6G5mNAJ98+hZ5CeIJnifg+lq8dovW KFEMmw== Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 05:54:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5aed55ad.13d1370a.52727.af57@mx.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2018-05/txt/msg00095.txt.bz2 On 2018-05-05 01:56, Steven Penny wrote: > On Sat, 5 May 2018 07:27:22, Marco Atzeri wrote: >> Jon Yong is doing an hell of job taming a monster program, >> and your comments are NOT appropriated. > > certainly not by you - and probably others on this list. The question is, if you actually understand your comments are not appreciated, why do you insist on making them anyway? > GCC as an example is a fast updating package. No, not really. > and as "politically incorrect" as it might be, jon could be doing a > better job in regards to velocity of release Jon is doing just fine, and has our full confidence and backing. We simply don't have the manpower of large distributions to deal with the consequences of potential compiler bugs, so we tend to aim for X.3.0. > at a minimum we should have test versions for GCC 7 and or 8 already https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2018-04/msg00034.html https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2018-05/msg00002.html > for ALL arches and ALL targets. Jon does not maintain all of the cross-compilers, and as he already stated earlier, the native GCC 7 is a prerequisite to the MinGW GCC 7 because GNAT is written in Ada. As for the aforementioned cygwin*-gcc, those are 32<->64 bit cross-compilers. I dropped Ada from those because there really isn't a use for it since the original 64-bit bootstrapping. >> and I do not see your maintaining efforts. > > not sure what you mean by this - no i havent maintained an official cygwin > package Exactly. Griping (or worse) at those who are actually doing the work while you contribute nothing doesn't get you very far. Perhaps the following will help you gain some perspective: Almost 10 years ago, I was the one being similarly targeted, and an "older" (at least wrt Cygwin), now former, contributor to Cygwin rightfully came to my defence in epic fashion: https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2008-11/msg00242.html I have never forgotten that, and hence am prepared to similarly defend my fellow contributors (albeit probably not as eloquently). >> This only show how ignorant you are about programming language and >> their usage. Clearly you are not an engineer. > > id say the same to you - as you seen keen on throwing insults rather > than links and examples - cheers. You are the one who insists on throwing insults time and again, and I have warned you about your tone before. I suggest you take heed. -- Yaakov -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple