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From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@Shaw.ca>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Cc: Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>
Subject: Re: Can not stat file with utf char U+F020
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 13:54:47 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f4d0bd30-731a-fb5e-43d2-a86d1af761b6@Shaw.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZDmiyYS+m0x4QZmh@calimero.vinschen.de>

On 2023-04-14 13:00, Corinna Vinschen via Cygwin wrote:
> On Apr 14 19:53, Gionatan Danti via Cygwin wrote:
>> I have an issue with unreadable files with contain utf char U+F020 (which
>> appear as "middle dot with some space after") in their name.
>> stat on such a file results in "no such file or directory"
>>  From here [1] it seems that a patch was contemplated many years ago, but I
>> don't know its status now.
>> Any ideas or workaround?

> There's no (good) solution from inside Cygwin.
> Keep in mind that the Unicode area from U+E000 up to U+F8FF is called
> "Private Use Area".  So none of the chars are mapped into any
> singlebyte, doublebyte, or multibyte charset.  Typically we don't expect
> that filenames contain any of these chars, and we're only using a very
> small subset of them for our own, dubious purposes anyway:
> https://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#pathnames-specialchars

>> [1] https://sourceware.org/legacy-ml/cygwin/2009-11/msg00043.html

> While this patch would have fixed your problem, a later followup patch
> broke your usage of U+F020 (space replacement) and, FWIW, of U+F02E
> (dot replacement) again:
> 	https://cygwin.com/cgit/newlib-cygwin/commit/?id=8802178fddfd
> This was done to accomodate filesystems implementing the idiotic
> approach to support only DOS filenames, i.e. not allowing leading or
> trailing spaces and not allowing trailing dots. These are Netapp and
> Novell Netware filesystems. See the last paragraph of
> https://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#pathnames-specialchars
> Any chance you can just rename the files?

UCSUR Under-ConScript Unicode Registry and its predecessor ConScript Unicode 
Registry CSUR

	https://www.kreativekorp.com/ucsur/

	http://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/

unofficially register Unicode PUA glyphs for academic, artificial, constructed, 
historical, invented, and minority language scripts, some of which have made it 
into Unicode e.g.

	Script		CSUR		Unicode
	PHAISTOS DISC	U+E6D0-U+E6FF	U+101D0-U+101DF
	SHAVIAN		U+E700-U+E72F	U+10450-U+1047F
	DESERET		U+E830-U+E88F	U+10400-U+1044F

and maintain their own Unidata e.g.

	https://www.kreativekorp.com/ucsur/UNIDATA/Blocks.txt

and some Unicode fonts have -CSUR addition files (like -Italic etc.) that 
support BMP and SMP PUA glyphs.

For Cygwin purposes:

F000−F7FF	unassigned	Reserved for hacks and corporate use

so Cygwin's special Windows file name characters mappings are clear:

	F022	"
	F02A	*
	F03A	:
	F03C	<
	F03E	>
	F03F	?
	F07C	|

-- 
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis              Calgary, Alberta, Canada

La perfection est atteinte                   Perfection is achieved
non pas lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à ajouter  not when there is no more to add
mais lorsqu'il n'y a plus rien à retirer     but when there is no more to cut
                                 -- Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-14 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-14 17:53 Gionatan Danti
2023-04-14 19:00 ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-14 19:54   ` Brian Inglis [this message]
2023-04-14 20:20     ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-14 20:21     ` Gionatan Danti
2023-04-14 20:25       ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-14 21:01         ` Gionatan Danti
2023-04-17  5:36           ` Gionatan Danti
2023-04-17  9:05             ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-17 10:58               ` Andrey Repin
2023-04-17 13:46               ` Gionatan Danti
2023-04-18 21:09                 ` Gionatan Danti
2023-04-19  1:10                   ` L A Walsh
2023-04-19 11:56                     ` Gionatan Danti
2023-04-14 20:17   ` Gionatan Danti
2023-04-14 20:40     ` Corinna Vinschen
2023-04-14 20:51       ` Gionatan Danti
2023-04-15  5:10     ` Brian Inglis
2023-04-17  9:10       ` Corinna Vinschen

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