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From: "Jørgen Steensgaard" <jsm@steensgaard.org>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Where to find a reliable provider of CygwinX?
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 21:11:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ii9ssl$6bh$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110201182757.GA3139@ednor.casa.cgf.cx>

A previous reply informed me that libjpeg62 may be included as an 
obsolete package.  I have not checked that out, so the discussion 
including the following should be understood in that context.  I have 
not checked whether it actually is available that way.

I deliberately omitted the identity of the actual provider, since this 
mailinglist is so widely read.  Send me a private email-address and I 
shall provide you with the information.

The missing presence of X and xinit I experienced by use of 'which' and 
making certain that these were commands in a 1.5-version that is running 
on another computer.  In fact I looked in vain for a folder with 
binaries for X.  I then switched provider, used an unmodified selection 
of packages and checked that the two commands were present in a relevant 
folder.  I have not yet the X-server running.

I used the search facility of setup.exe with libjpeg to find packages, 
none of them showed libjpeg6.2 and subsequently checked with the 
complete name.  This was the behaviour observed with two different 
providers.  I was not aware of means to disclose obsolete packages.

Another experience that emerge from this discussion is that it seems 
very hard to be believed.  It is also very hard to document the details 
of what goes on during installation.  Please take than into account when
you take this as a support experience, which certainly is in line with 
my intentions.

Do not forget to send a non-mailinglist email-address for information 
about which providers I have experienced.  You may then decide, if the 
information should be published here.

You might of course also emphasize your doubts of my credibility, if you 
want to close the actual discussion.

Jørgen

On 01/02/2011 19:27, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 07:13:51PM +0100, J??rgen Steensgaard wrote:
>> Thanks for the guidance.  But: yes, I refer to a provider on the list of
>> mirrors found in setup.exe; and yes, I realise the difficulty to ensure
>> consistency and the urge to put responsibilities on mirror owners.  Some
>> mechanism of mirror authorisation is in my opinion needed.
>
> As previously mentioned, we already have that.
>
>> Is the original distribution available to common users?  Or at least
>> details of the contents? If not, I have no reference system and cannot
>> identify derivations?
>>
>> Do remember that the impressions left by inconsistencies will stick also
>> on the original -- which is actually fair.
>
> How about if we treat your problem as a support experience rather than a
> call to redesign all of the mirror handling?
>
> You have not provided such basic details as:
>
> What, exactly, did you select when installing that would lead you to
> believe that you should have had X programs installed?  What mirror did
> you use?  What error message did you receive when you tried to install
> xinit but found it unavailable?
>
> I have a very hard time believing that you found official cygwin mirrors
> which did not have the libjpeg62 package but, if you did, we'd certainly
> like to know which ones are in error.
>
> cgf
>




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  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-01 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-01 14:20 Jørgen Steensgaard
2011-02-01 15:45 ` marco atzeri
2011-02-01 16:26   ` Jørgen Steensgaard
2011-02-01 16:40     ` Larry Hall (Cygwin)
2011-02-01 18:14       ` Jørgen Steensgaard
2011-02-01 18:28         ` Christopher Faylor
2011-02-01 21:11           ` Jørgen Steensgaard [this message]
2011-02-01 21:27             ` Jeremy Bopp
2011-02-01 21:46             ` Christopher Faylor
2011-02-02 17:34               ` Jørgen Steensgaard
2011-02-03  9:09                 ` Thorsten Kampe
2011-02-01 16:42     ` marco atzeri
2011-02-01 16:40 ` Csaba Raduly

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