Man and LANG issue.

Man and LANG issue.

[Oleksandr Gavenko]

My LANG=ru_RU.cp1251 so if man page was translated I get garbage
in output.

Problem lies out of 'cp1251' because /usr/share/man/ru store
man pages in different encoding:

   /usr/share/man/ru/man1/mc.1.gz is UTF-8
   /usr/share/man/ru/man1/mplayer.1.gz is koi8-r

Also man does not support page recoding on fly:

   $ ls -ld /usr/share/man/ru*
drwxr-xr-x+ 1 user root 0 июн 10  2010 /usr/share/man/ru
drwxr-xr-x+ 1 user root 0 окт 13 10:10 /usr/share/man/ru.KOI8-R
drwxr-xr-x+ 1 user root 0 окт 13 10:10 /usr/share/man/ru.UTF-8

   $ test -f /usr/share/man/ru.KOI8-R/ex.1.gz && OK
OK

   $ LANG=ru_RU.cp1251 man ex
... EN output ...
   $ LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 man ex
... EN output ...

   $ LANG=ru.UTF-8-8 man ex
... !!RU output!! ...

so man can not strip '_RU' from 'ru_RU'!

I would like to see only EN man pages. According to 'man 1 man' I
need set 'LANG=C', but I like 'LANG=ru_RU.cp1251'!

I try add:

   LANG C

to /etc/man.conf, but got warning:

   Unrecognized line in config file (ignored)
   LANG C


In bash I can define alias:

   $ alias man='LANG=C man'

But how about Emacs M-x man? I need write a wrapper and set

   (setq manual-program "LANG=C man")

In order to fix page lang for MC  and bash I put

   alias man='LANG=C man'

to ~/.bashrc

Seems I cover all my use cases but I have a questions:

  * Is it possible set LANG setting for man without setting LANG=C to
    all other apps (like Emacs, MC)? I would like see option in
    'man.conf'
  * Is it right provide /usr/share/man/ru/ with files with different
    encoding? I think packages must fixed to 'ru.UTF-8', ru.KOI8-R
    path.


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Re: Man and LANG issue.

[Markus Hoenicka]

Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenko@bifit.com.ua> was heard to say:

>
> But how about Emacs M-x man? I need write a wrapper and set
>

Dunno about the rest, but have you tried M-x woman? This is a man page  
reader implemented in elisp. It may or may not handle language issues  
better than man.

regards,
Markus

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Re: Man and LANG issue.

[Oleksandr Gavenko]

20.10.2011 11:56, Markus Hoenicka пишет:
> Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenko@bifit.com.ua> was heard to say:
>
>>
>> But how about Emacs M-x man? I need write a wrapper and set
>>
>
> Dunno about the rest, but have you tried M-x woman? This is a man page
> reader implemented in elisp. It may or may not handle language issues
> better than man.
>
Yes, I use M-x woman for a long time with Cygwin 1.5 when native Emacs
can not correctly invoke Cygwin man...

But some day with Cygwin 1.7 I discover that M-x man properly work so
stop using M-x woman (because of initial load delay to build index of
available man pages).

A few day ago I post my config how to get this:

   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.cygwin/129043

    # This allow access to man files from Cygwin and native Emacs
    # (with cygwin-mount.el enabled), M-x man/woman...
    # Take special attention to leading colon.

 
MANPATH=:/cygdrive/e/home/usr/share/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/local/share/man


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