* setup.hint / ldesc @ 2003-09-05 16:45 Sam Steingold 2003-09-05 19:02 ` Christopher Faylor 2003-09-05 19:07 ` Igor Pechtchanski 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Sam Steingold @ 2003-09-05 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file: %description %(cat SUMMARY) can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc? I don't want to duplicate the same information twice. -- Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds) running w2k <http://www.camera.org> <http://www.iris.org.il> <http://www.memri.org/> <http://www.mideasttruth.com/> <http://www.honestreporting.com> Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off NOW. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-05 16:45 setup.hint / ldesc Sam Steingold @ 2003-09-05 19:02 ` Christopher Faylor 2003-09-05 19:33 ` Sam Steingold 2003-09-05 19:07 ` Igor Pechtchanski 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Christopher Faylor @ 2003-09-05 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote: >RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file: > >%description >%(cat SUMMARY) > >can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc? No. The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-05 19:02 ` Christopher Faylor @ 2003-09-05 19:33 ` Sam Steingold 2003-09-05 19:46 ` Igor Pechtchanski ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Sam Steingold @ 2003-09-05 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin > * In message <20030905190243.GC4483@redhat.com> > * On the subject of "Re: setup.hint / ldesc" > * Sent on Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:02:43 -0400 > * Honorable Christopher Faylor <cgf-rcm@cygwin.com> writes: > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote: > >RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file: > > > >%description > >%(cat SUMMARY) > > > >can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc? > > No. > > The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at > http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate. any plans to add something like that? E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell... ldesc is not used at this time, so, I guess, I will just leave it blank :-) -- Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds) running w2k <http://www.camera.org> <http://www.iris.org.il> <http://www.memri.org/> <http://www.mideasttruth.com/> <http://www.honestreporting.com> If brute force does not work, you are not using enough. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-05 19:33 ` Sam Steingold @ 2003-09-05 19:46 ` Igor Pechtchanski 2003-09-05 20:46 ` Christopher Faylor 2003-09-05 21:27 ` Robert Collins 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Igor Pechtchanski @ 2003-09-05 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sam Steingold; +Cc: cygwin On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Sam Steingold wrote: > > * In message <20030905190243.GC4483@redhat.com> > > * On the subject of "Re: setup.hint / ldesc" > > * Sent on Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:02:43 -0400 > > * Honorable Christopher Faylor writes: > > > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote: > > >RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file: > > > > > >%description > > >%(cat SUMMARY) > > > > > >can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc? > > > > No. > > > > The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at > > http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate. > > any plans to add something like that? > E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell... > > ldesc is not used at this time, so, I guess, I will just leave it blank :-) Sam, ldesc is not currently used, but will be used at some point by setup, with no prior notice (or not much, anyway). If you're willing to deprive your users of seeing the long package description, that's your choice, but I'd suggest setting the ldesc field (at least make it the same as sdesc). AFAIK, there are no plans to use this syntax, mainly because setup.hint files should be independent of any other files. The suggestion in my other message might make more sense for you. This discussion *really* belongs on cygwin-apps. As CGF mentioned, simply subscribe to "cygwin-apps-allow" to be able to post without receiving any messages. FWIW, that's how I do it. Please follow-up to cygwin-apps. Igor P.S. Would it be too much to ask to please make your mailer not quote e-mail addresses in replies? -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster." -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-05 19:33 ` Sam Steingold 2003-09-05 19:46 ` Igor Pechtchanski @ 2003-09-05 20:46 ` Christopher Faylor 2003-09-05 21:27 ` Robert Collins 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Christopher Faylor @ 2003-09-05 20:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:33:16PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote: >> * In message <20030905190243.GC4483@redhat.com> >> * On the subject of "Re: setup.hint / ldesc" >> * Sent on Fri, 5 Sep 2003 15:02:43 -0400 >> * Honorable Christopher Faylor <cgf-rcm@cygwin.com> writes: >> >> On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:45:40PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote: >> >RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file: >> > >> >%description >> >%(cat SUMMARY) >> > >> >can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc? >> >> No. >> >> The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at >> http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate. > >any plans to add something like that? >E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell... No, since it doesn't make any sense to do so. setup.hint files live on sources.redhat.com. There is no need for include syntax there. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-05 19:33 ` Sam Steingold 2003-09-05 19:46 ` Igor Pechtchanski 2003-09-05 20:46 ` Christopher Faylor @ 2003-09-05 21:27 ` Robert Collins 2003-09-05 21:42 ` Sam Steingold 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Robert Collins @ 2003-09-05 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: sds; +Cc: cygwin [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 05:33, Sam Steingold wrote: > > The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at > > http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate. > > any plans to add something like that? > E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell... > > ldesc is not used at this time, so, I guess, I will just leave it blank :-) Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided? Rob -- GPG key available at: <http://members.aardvark.net.au/lifeless/keys.txt>. [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-05 21:27 ` Robert Collins @ 2003-09-05 21:42 ` Sam Steingold 2003-09-07 10:26 ` Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail) 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Sam Steingold @ 2003-09-05 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Collins; +Cc: cygwin > * In message <1062797241.744.2.camel@localhost> > * On the subject of "Re: setup.hint / ldesc" > * Sent on Sat, 06 Sep 2003 07:27:21 +1000 > * Honorable Robert Collins <rbcollins@cygwin.com> writes: > > On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 05:33, Sam Steingold wrote: > > > > The description of the setup.ini/setup.hint "language" at > > > http://cygwin.com/setup.html is accurate. > > > > any plans to add something like that? > > E.g., is a field starts with $, pass it to the shell... > > > > ldesc is not used at this time, so, I guess, I will just leave it blank :-) > > Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided? why should I maintain two identical texts in two separate files? -- Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds) running w2k <http://www.camera.org> <http://www.iris.org.il> <http://www.memri.org/> <http://www.mideasttruth.com/> <http://www.honestreporting.com> Those who don't know lisp are destined to reinvent it, poorly. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* RE: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-05 21:42 ` Sam Steingold @ 2003-09-07 10:26 ` Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail) 2003-09-07 17:40 ` Sam Steingold 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail) @ 2003-09-07 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin > From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf > Of Sam Steingold > > Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided? > > why should I maintain two identical texts in two separate files? $ ln --help /Hannu E K Nevalainen, B.Sc. EE - 59?16.37'N, 17?12.60'E --END OF MESSAGE-- -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-07 10:26 ` Hannu E K Nevalainen (garbage mail) @ 2003-09-07 17:40 ` Sam Steingold 2003-09-07 18:07 ` Christopher Faylor 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Sam Steingold @ 2003-09-07 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin > * In message <NGBBLLIAMFLGJEOAJCCEOELGDDAA.garbage_collector@telia.com> > * On the subject of "RE: setup.hint / ldesc" > * Sent on Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:25:09 +0200 > * Honorable "Hannu E K Nevalainen \(garbage mail\)" <garbage_collector@telia.com> writes: > > > From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf > > Of Sam Steingold > > > > Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided? > > > > why should I maintain two identical texts in two separate files? > > $ ln --help vow! who could have thought about it?! could you please enlighten me how can ln help me with two files one of which contains the other and almost nothing else?? -- Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds) running w2k <http://www.camera.org> <http://www.iris.org.il> <http://www.memri.org/> <http://www.mideasttruth.com/> <http://www.honestreporting.com> There is Truth, and its value is T. Or just non-NIL. So 0 is True! -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-07 17:40 ` Sam Steingold @ 2003-09-07 18:07 ` Christopher Faylor 2003-09-07 18:23 ` Christopher Faylor 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Christopher Faylor @ 2003-09-07 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 01:40:47PM -0400, Sam Steingold wrote: >> * In message <NGBBLLIAMFLGJEOAJCCEOELGDDAA.garbage_collector@telia.com> >> * On the subject of "RE: setup.hint / ldesc" >> * Sent on Sun, 7 Sep 2003 12:25:09 +0200 >> * Honorable "Hannu E K Nevalainen \(garbage mail\)" <garbage_collector@telia.com> writes: >> >> > From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf >> > Of Sam Steingold >> >> > > Whats so hard in just following the recipe provided? >> > >> > why should I maintain two identical texts in two separate files? >> >> $ ln --help > >vow! who could have thought about it?! >could you please enlighten me how can ln help me with two files one of >which contains the other and almost nothing else?? How about if, instead, we stop talking about this? Your requirements for keeping setup.hint information in another file are really not very interesting. Just for some repeated clarification: the setup.hint files live on sources.redhat.com along with the package tar.bz2 files. We're not going to make an exception and allow you to upload a separate included file for your proposed release. If you want to use setup.hint files for something other than the cygwin release, then you can invent your own syntax and do whatever you like with setup.exe (assuming that you're using it), this being free software and all. And, as long as things are being repeated, this: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-09/msg00396.html is a perfectly workable plan. I don't know why you haven't responded to this suggestion or to this: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-09/msg00402.html where you are being asked to stop quoting email addresses in your text. But, please, there's no need for clarification on why you continue to respond to those suggestions which you think won't work but are silent on the suggestion that really should do what you want. Lets just stop this now. -- Please use the resources at cygwin.com rather than sending personal email. Special for spam email harvesters: send email to aaaspam@sourceware.org and be permanently blocked from mailing lists at sources.redhat.com -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-07 18:07 ` Christopher Faylor @ 2003-09-07 18:23 ` Christopher Faylor 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Christopher Faylor @ 2003-09-07 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: cygwin On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 02:07:09PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >where you are being asked to stop quoting email addresses in your text. Oops. I did the same thing in my reply. Sorry about that. I meant to edit the email addresses away before responding. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: setup.hint / ldesc 2003-09-05 16:45 setup.hint / ldesc Sam Steingold 2003-09-05 19:02 ` Christopher Faylor @ 2003-09-05 19:07 ` Igor Pechtchanski 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Igor Pechtchanski @ 2003-09-05 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sam Steingold; +Cc: cygwin On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Sam Steingold wrote: > RPM *.spec lets me include the summary from an external file: > > %description > %(cat SUMMARY) > > can I do something similar with setup.hint/ldesc? > I don't want to duplicate the same information twice. No, you can't. However, you can create a "setup.hint.in" with such syntax and process it to create the actual "setup.hint" during your package build process. I'm assuming you'd like to package some application which contains the description in a file that's changed relatively often. Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! "I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster." -- Patrick Naughton -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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