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* Only 128m practical for W98: Cygwin, Apache, Tomcat, & Emacs?
@ 2000-08-21 15:07 David M. Karr
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From: David M. Karr @ 2000-08-21 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

(this is borderline on topic, but I'm not quite sure of the best place
to ask this.)

I use NT at work, which is configured with Cygwin, Apache, Tomcat,
Emacs, and other things.  I have 256m RAM on it.  Things work
reasonably well.

I have a W98 system at home, which until now I haven't pushed very
hard.  It "only" has 128m RAM.  I'm finding that after running Apache
and Tomcat, and running Emacs and some occasional scripts (using
Cygwin tools), the system becomes quite unstable in abnormal ways,
like "xargs" or "find" dying, or getting big "Almost out of resources"
dialogs, before the system gets completely hung.

The question is, is this situation likely to improve if I increase my
RAM from 128m to 256m?

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* RE: Only 128m practical for W98: Cygwin, Apache, Tomcat, & Emacs?
  2000-08-22  5:41 Earnie Boyd
@ 2000-08-22 11:06 ` Mark Weaver
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From: Mark Weaver @ 2000-08-22 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David M. Karr, cygwin

I think that the problem you are having is most likely to be W98, not the
amount of memory that you have.  This "OS" doesn't manage resources anywhere
near as well as NT - it still has separate heaps for certain object types -
and these can get used up long before you run out of memory.  (You can see
this by running resource monitor and several copies of a hungry app like
Visual C++).  Probably the best thing that you can do is upgrade to NT/W2K.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner@sources.redhat.com
> [ mailto:cygwin-owner@sources.redhat.com]On Behalf Of Earnie Boyd
> Sent: 22 August 2000 13:41
> To: David M. Karr; cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
> Subject: Re: Only 128m practical for W98: Cygwin, Apache, Tomcat, &
> Emacs?
>
>
> --- "David M. Karr" <dkarr@tcsi.com> wrote:
> > I use NT at work, which is configured with Cygwin, Apache, Tomcat,
> > Emacs, and other things.  I have 256m RAM on it.  Things work
> > reasonably well.
> >
>
> Great! ;)
>
> > I have a W98 system at home, which until now I haven't pushed very
> > hard.  It "only" has 128m RAM.  I'm finding that after running Apache
> > and Tomcat, and running Emacs and some occasional scripts (using
> > Cygwin tools), the system becomes quite unstable in abnormal ways,
> > like "xargs" or "find" dying, or getting big "Almost out of resources"
> > dialogs, before the system gets completely hung.
> >
> > The question is, is this situation likely to improve if I increase my
> > RAM from 128m to 256m?
> >
>
> Hmm...  the increase in RAM would improve your performance
> slightly; but, how
> much room is left on your system drive?  Win9x uses a percentage
> of the unused
> portions of your system drive for the virtual memory paging
> files.  If you've
> used more than half of the system drive then buying another drive
> would be of
> more benefit.  Also, try defragmenting the drive to see if that helps.
>
> Cheers,
>
> =====
> ---
>    Earnie Boyd: < mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com >
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* Re: Only 128m practical for W98: Cygwin, Apache, Tomcat, & Emacs?
@ 2000-08-22  5:41 Earnie Boyd
  2000-08-22 11:06 ` Mark Weaver
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Earnie Boyd @ 2000-08-22  5:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David M. Karr, cygwin

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--- "David M. Karr" <dkarr@tcsi.com> wrote:
> I use NT at work, which is configured with Cygwin, Apache, Tomcat,
> Emacs, and other things.  I have 256m RAM on it.  Things work
> reasonably well.
> 

Great! ;)

> I have a W98 system at home, which until now I haven't pushed very
> hard.  It "only" has 128m RAM.  I'm finding that after running Apache
> and Tomcat, and running Emacs and some occasional scripts (using
> Cygwin tools), the system becomes quite unstable in abnormal ways,
> like "xargs" or "find" dying, or getting big "Almost out of resources"
> dialogs, before the system gets completely hung.
> 
> The question is, is this situation likely to improve if I increase my
> RAM from 128m to 256m?
> 

Hmm...  the increase in RAM would improve your performance slightly; but, how
much room is left on your system drive?  Win9x uses a percentage of the unused
portions of your system drive for the virtual memory paging files.  If you've
used more than half of the system drive then buying another drive would be of
more benefit.  Also, try defragmenting the drive to see if that helps.

Cheers,

=====
---
   Earnie Boyd: < mailto:earnie_boyd@yahoo.com >
            __Cygwin: POSIX on Windows__
Cygwin Newbies: < http://gw32.freeyellow.com/ >
           __Minimalist GNU for Windows__
  Mingw32 List: < http://www.egroups.com/group/mingw32/ >
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