cygwin console

cygwin console

[Jean le Roux]

Hi all

Here's another newbie question.. I could find no help in the FAQ for
this:

Are there any better cygwin consoles out there that the default one
that's installed off the web ? It's rather limited and slows down
development :(. I'd love something with a scrollback history for
instance, or simply more displayed lines.

Thanx

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Re: cygwin console

[Mark Himsley]

rxvt is probably what you are looking for. It is a stand-alone app and does
not require X to be installed. It has its own package so you may have to
install it via setup.exe.

Other alternatives are, for instance, installing sshd or inetd and using
your favourite ssh/telnet client to connect to localhost or installing X and
using one of the X terminals.


On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:34:17 +0200 you wrote:

>Hi all
>
>Here's another newbie question.. I could find no help in the FAQ for
>this:
>
>Are there any better cygwin consoles out there that the default one
>that's installed off the web ? It's rather limited and slows down
>development :(. I'd love something with a scrollback history for
>instance, or simply more displayed lines.
>
>Thanx
>
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>
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>
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>		-- Alexander Hamilton

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Re: cygwin console

[David Starks-Browning]

It probably is worth adding something to the FAQ about this.

Thanks,
David
(Cygwin FAQ maintainer)

On Tuesday 8 Jan 02, Mark Himsley writes:
> rxvt is probably what you are looking for. It is a stand-alone app and does
> not require X to be installed. It has its own package so you may have to
> install it via setup.exe.
> 
> Other alternatives are, for instance, installing sshd or inetd and using
> your favourite ssh/telnet client to connect to localhost or installing X and
> using one of the X terminals.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:34:17 +0200 you wrote:
> 
> >Hi all
> >
> >Here's another newbie question.. I could find no help in the FAQ for
> >this:
> >
> >Are there any better cygwin consoles out there that the default one
> >that's installed off the web ? It's rather limited and slows down
> >development :(. I'd love something with a scrollback history for
> >instance, or simply more displayed lines.
> >
> >Thanx
> >
> >-- 
> >Jean le Roux
> >Binary Entropy Catalyst
> >
> >Cellular:	083 505 6443
> >
> >A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing.
> >		-- Alexander Hamilton
> 
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Re: cygwin console

[Gerrit P. Haase]

 David,

2002-01-08 12:22:14, du schriebst:

> It probably is worth adding something to the FAQ about this.

I think `rxvt' should be the default shell for Cygwin after a
fresh setup.  At least for Win98 users.

Just my 2 cent (EURO).

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Re: cygwin console

[David Starks-Browning]

On Tuesday 8 Jan 02, Gerrit P. Haase writes:
>  David,
> 
> 2002-01-08 12:22:14, du schriebst:
> 
> > It probably is worth adding something to the FAQ about this.
> 
> I think `rxvt' should be the default shell for Cygwin after a
> fresh setup.  At least for Win98 users.

I fully agree, but who is going to do the work?

David


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Re: cygwin console

[John Peacock]

David Starks-Browning wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday 8 Jan 02, Gerrit P. Haase writes:
> > I think `rxvt' should be the default shell for Cygwin after a
> > fresh setup.  At least for Win98 users.
> 
> I fully agree, but who is going to do the work?
> 

The change is truly trivial:

--- cygwin.bat.orig     Tue Jan  8 09:15:22 2002
+++ cygwin.bat  Tue Jan  8 09:20:22 2002
@@ -3,4 +3,4 @@
 D:
 chdir \cygwin\bin
 
-bash --login -i
+start rxvt -sl 300 -e bash --login -i

but since this file is, I believe, originally created by the CygWin installer, 
the change needs to happen there.

HTH

John

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Re: cygwin console

[Pavel Tsekov]

Hey, John :)

John Peacock wrote:

> David Starks-Browning wrote:
> 
>>On Tuesday 8 Jan 02, Gerrit P. Haase writes:
>>
>>>I think `rxvt' should be the default shell for Cygwin after a
>>>fresh setup.  At least for Win98 users.
>>>
>>I fully agree, but who is going to do the work?
>>
>>
> 
> The change is truly trivial:
> 
> --- cygwin.bat.orig     Tue Jan  8 09:15:22 2002
> +++ cygwin.bat  Tue Jan  8 09:20:22 2002
> @@ -3,4 +3,4 @@
>  D:
>  chdir \cygwin\bin
>  
> -bash --login -i
> +start rxvt -sl 300 -e bash --login -i



Well, this is fine as long as the rxvt package is installed :)
However the current installer doesn't care about this too :) Maybe
a new page asking for a preferred shell/console would be useful.
This will instruct setup.exe to include the shell/console package
exclusively and there will be no more errors of the type - "clicking
on cygwin icon produces a just quick flash".

However :) This were just my .04 euro cents :)


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Re: cygwin console

[John Peacock]

Pavel Tsekov wrote:
> 
> Well, this is fine as long as the rxvt package is installed :)

Yes, rxvt would need to be added to the base install in the event that rxvt was
chosen as the default console.  I also think that there is no reason to ask 
whether anyone WANTS to use the lame CMD box; rxvt is all of ~100k and is so
far better than CMD that it only make sense to make it the default on fresh
installs.

John

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Re: cygwin console

[Kent Perrier]

On 1/8/2002 8:51 AM, Pavel Tsekov wrote:

>>
>> --- cygwin.bat.orig     Tue Jan  8 09:15:22 2002
>> +++ cygwin.bat  Tue Jan  8 09:20:22 2002
>> @@ -3,4 +3,4 @@
>>  D:
>>  chdir \cygwin\bin
>>  
>> -bash --login -i
>> +start rxvt -sl 300 -e bash --login -i
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Well, this is fine as long as the rxvt package is installed :)
> However the current installer doesn't care about this too :) Maybe
> a new page asking for a preferred shell/console would be useful.
> This will instruct setup.exe to include the shell/console package
> exclusively and there will be no more errors of the type - "clicking
> on cygwin icon produces a just quick flash".
> 
> However :) This were just my .04 euro cents :)

Humm.  I comment out the bash line and I add the rxvt line and I get the 
"guick flash."  I do have rxvt installed, so what have I done wrong?

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Re: cygwin console

[Gerrit P. Haase]

 John,

2002-01-08 15:43:01, du schriebst:

>>> I think `rxvt' should be the default shell for Cygwin after a
>>> fresh setup.  At least for Win98 users.

>> I fully agree, but who is going to do the work?

> The change is truly trivial:

Yes, but I'm sure it needs some discussion.  To satisfy every interest
there should be a dialog or a choose box at the beginning of the setup,
or it may depend on the OS, on NT I have no greater problems using cmd
since it is resizable by default, but on Win98 I have this really bad
command.com shell window.

> --- cygwin.bat.orig     Tue Jan  8 09:15:22 2002
> +++ cygwin.bat  Tue Jan  8 09:20:22 2002
> @@ -3,4 +3,4 @@
>  D:
>  chdir \cygwin\bin
 
> -bash --login -i
> +start rxvt -sl 300 -e bash --login -i

I would like to have it a blue background and a red cursor;)

> but since this file is, I believe, originally created by the CygWin installer,
> the change needs to happen there.

Maybe a hint in the FAQ with an example how to start up rxvt
in x:\cygwin\cygwin.bat from a shortcut on the desktop is
sufficient for the beginning?

Something like this:
@echo off

REM your drive and path here:
C:
chdir \cygwin\bin

REM -sr scrollbar rightside, -sl 2500 lines big,  -sb scrollbar active, -fg textcolor,
REM -bg backgroundcolor,-geometry size, -tn terminaltype, -cr cursorcolor,
REM -fn font+size, -e eval this command
rxvt -sr -sl 2500 -sb -geometry 90x30 -fg lightblue -bg midnightblue -cr red -tn rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-14" -e /usr/bin/bash --login -i


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Re: cygwin console

[Pavel Tsekov]

Heyho, Kent :)

Kent Perrier wrote:

> On 1/8/2002 8:51 AM, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> --- cygwin.bat.orig     Tue Jan  8 09:15:22 2002
>>> +++ cygwin.bat  Tue Jan  8 09:20:22 2002
>>> @@ -3,4 +3,4 @@
>>>  D:
>>>  chdir \cygwin\bin
>>>  
>>> -bash --login -i
>>> +start rxvt -sl 300 -e bash --login -i
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, this is fine as long as the rxvt package is installed :)
>> However the current installer doesn't care about this too :) Maybe
>> a new page asking for a preferred shell/console would be useful.
>> This will instruct setup.exe to include the shell/console package
>> exclusively and there will be no more errors of the type - "clicking
>> on cygwin icon produces a just quick flash".
>>
>> However :) This were just my .04 euro cents :)
> 
> 
> Humm.  I comment out the bash line and I add the rxvt line and I get the 
> "guick flash."  I do have rxvt installed, so what have I done wrong?


:)) Except comenting the bash line and adding rxvt do you modify you
cygwin.bat in any other fashion ? Is the chdir line still there ? does
it change to the approapriate dir where rxvt.exe is found ? Is 
cygwin1.dll in this directory - if not is it in your PATH ?
What message is printed if you start rxvt.exe from a console window
and not from the cygwin.bat ?



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Re: cygwin console

[John Peacock]

Kent Perrier wrote:
> 
> Humm.  I comment out the bash line and I add the rxvt line and I get the
> "guick flash."  I do have rxvt installed, so what have I done wrong?

Restore the bash line, then run the rxvt line from within the CMD window and
see what error messages you get (leave off the 'start').  My line actually 
looks like this:

start rxvt -geometry 80x24+438+355 -display :0 -sl 300 -e bash --login -i

since I have Rational tools installed (and they mess with my environment).

HTH

John


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Re: cygwin console

[Gerrit P. Haase]

 Kent,

2002-01-08 16:13:28, du schriebst:

>>> --- cygwin.bat.orig     Tue Jan  8 09:15:22 2002
>>> +++ cygwin.bat  Tue Jan  8 09:20:22 2002
>>> @@ -3,4 +3,4 @@
>>>  D:
>>>  chdir \cygwin\bin
>>>  
>>> -bash --login -i
>>> +start rxvt -sl 300 -e bash --login -i

> Humm.  I comment out the bash line and I add the rxvt line and I get the 
> "guick flash."  I do have rxvt installed, so what have I done wrong?

Windows98?

What happens if you just double click rxvt.exe from explorer?
I get a whit shell with black font scrollbar at the left.

Or was it DISPLAY which needs to be exported, though it isn't
there if I call rxvt directely:

Try adding:
export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
or this:
export DISPLAY=:0

to your ~/.bashrc or /etc/profile


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Re: cygwin console

[John Peacock]

"Gerrit P. Haase" wrote:
> 
> Yes, but I'm sure it needs some discussion.  

Isn't that what we are doing here? ;~)

> I would like to have it a blue background and a red cursor;)

Pervert!  ;~!

> 
> > but since this file is, I believe, originally created by the CygWin installer,
> > the change needs to happen there.
> 
> Maybe a hint in the FAQ with an example how to start up rxvt
> in x:\cygwin\cygwin.bat from a shortcut on the desktop is
> sufficient for the beginning?
> 
> Something like this:
> @echo off
> 
> REM your drive and path here:
> C:
> chdir \cygwin\bin
> 
> REM -sr scrollbar rightside, -sl 2500 lines big,  -sb scrollbar active, -fg textcolor,
> REM -bg backgroundcolor,-geometry size, -tn terminaltype, -cr cursorcolor,
> REM -fn font+size, -e eval this command
> rxvt -sr -sl 2500 -sb -geometry 90x30 -fg lightblue -bg midnightblue -cr red -tn rxvt -fn "Lucida Console-14" -e /usr/bin/bash --login -i
> 

I guess that's not such a bad idea.  However, IMNSHO, whether you are using
command.exe or cmd.exe with bash, rxvt is SO much better that it should be the
default (and make the FAQ tell how to NOT run it).

John

p.s. and I guess your color scheme isn't so awful; typically you never want to 
have red and blue of the same intensity next to each other, since the same 
cones in your eyes perceive both colors and you can sometimes get the phantom 
movement

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Re: cygwin console

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 11:45:53AM +0000, David Starks-Browning wrote:
>On Tuesday 8 Jan 02, Gerrit P. Haase writes:
>>  David,
>> 
>> 2002-01-08 12:22:14, du schriebst:
>> 
>> > It probably is worth adding something to the FAQ about this.
>> 
>> I think `rxvt' should be the default shell for Cygwin after a
>> fresh setup.  At least for Win98 users.
>
>I fully agree, but who is going to do the work?

The problem is that we'll be switching the "I need a scrollbar!"s with
the "Where is the output from <some random windows command>?".

cygwin's pty emulation does not work with every windows application.  I
don't think we should default to using rxvt for this reason.

It is so frighteningly trivial to change this that I don't really see a
big deal here.  The basic problem is that people think that cygwin is a
standard inscrutable windows app with no way to control their
environment if it isn't an option in setup.exe.

Maybe that's what needs to go into the FAQ:  "You have the power!"

Or, maybe we should get rid of the GUI setup entirely and have people
untar stuff themselves so that they realize what's going on. 1/2 :-)

cgf

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Re: cygwin console

[Kent Perrier]

On 1/8/2002 9:20 AM, John Peacock wrote:

> Kent Perrier wrote:
> 
>>Humm.  I comment out the bash line and I add the rxvt line and I get the
>>"guick flash."  I do have rxvt installed, so what have I done wrong?
>>
> 
> Restore the bash line, then run the rxvt line from within the CMD window and
> see what error messages you get (leave off the 'start').  My line actually 
> looks like this:
> 
> start rxvt -geometry 80x24+438+355 -display :0 -sl 300 -e bash --login -i
> 
> since I have Rational tools installed (and they mess with my environment).


I am going to respond to both you (John) and Pavel here.  I can run rxvt 

from both a cmd shell (yes, I am using Win2K) and from a bash prompt.  I do 

not get any error messages here.  The only place I have a problem is 
when I modify my cygwin.bat file.

I don't think that this is a problem with finding the cygwin1.dll since 
that throws up a dialog box, telling me that that is the problem.  But, 
doing a search on my C drive for cygwin1.dll I find it only in c:\cygwin\bin


Here is my current cygwin.bat

C:\cygwin>type cygwin.bat
@echo off

C:
chdir \cygwin\bin

rem bash --login -i
  rxvt -sr -sl 2500 -sb -e bash --login -i


There was a start before the rxvt command, but I removed it to see if I 
could get any more debug info.  I could not.

Thanks!

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Re: cygwin console

[Gerrit P. Haase]

 John,

2002-01-08 16:30:56, du schriebst:

> p.s. and I guess your color scheme isn't so awful; typically you never want to
> have red and blue of the same intensity next to each other, since the same 
> cones in your eyes perceive both colors and you can sometimes get the phantom 
> movement

Sounds cool;)  Flickering?


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Re: cygwin console

[John Peacock]

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> 
> The problem is that we'll be switching the "I need a scrollbar!"s with
> the "Where is the output from <some random windows command>?".
> 
> cygwin's pty emulation does not work with every windows application.  I
> don't think we should default to using rxvt for this reason.

I was not aware of this limitation.  Is this something we should be working on
or is it a known-lost-cause-due-to-Redmond-stupidity issue.

> 
> It is so frighteningly trivial to change this that I don't really see a
> big deal here.  The basic problem is that people think that cygwin is a
> standard inscrutable windows app with no way to control their
> environment if it isn't an option in setup.exe.
> 
> Maybe that's what needs to go into the FAQ:  "You have the power!"

Maybe Gerrit's idea of having a commented rxvt line in cygwin.bat could be
extended to comment the rxvt line itself as well.  This way, the FAQ could
simple say "If you don't like the (lame) DOS-box window, edit the 
cygwin.bat file and uncomment the rxvt line for another kind of terminal
session."

> 
> Or, maybe we should get rid of the GUI setup entirely and have people
> untar stuff themselves so that they realize what's going on. 1/2 :-)

Ha, ha, it is to laugh...

John

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Re: cygwin console

[John Peacock]

Kent Perrier wrote:
> 
> Here is my current cygwin.bat
> 
> C:\cygwin>type cygwin.bat
> @echo off
> 
> C:
> chdir \cygwin\bin
> 
> rem bash --login -i
>   rxvt -sr -sl 2500 -sb -e bash --login -i
> 

start from a simple base:

rxvt -e bash --login -i

and see if that works, then add in the other options.  What I posted is exactly
what I am running (with W2k SP1) so there must be something else going on.  Are
you sure you don't have any strange environment variables set?

John

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Re: cygwin console

[Kent Perrier]

On 1/8/2002 9:55 AM, John Peacock wrote:

> start from a simple base:
> 
> rxvt -e bash --login -i
> 
> and see if that works, then add in the other options.  What I posted is exactly
> what I am running (with W2k SP1) so there must be something else going on.  Are
> you sure you don't have any strange environment variables set?


I get the same screen flash. :(


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Re: cygwin console

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:52:17AM -0500, John Peacock wrote:
>Christopher Faylor wrote:
>>The problem is that we'll be switching the "I need a scrollbar!"s with
>>the "Where is the output from <some random windows command>?".
>>
>>cygwin's pty emulation does not work with every windows application.  I
>>don't think we should default to using rxvt for this reason.
>
>I was not aware of this limitation.  Is this something we should be
>working on or is it a known-lost-cause-due-to-Redmond-stupidity issue.

The basic problem is that a cygwin pty is a pipe and some windows apps
don't like having their input/output redirected to pipes.  rxvt already has
some workarounds for this but they aren't foolproof.

>>It is so frighteningly trivial to change this that I don't really see a
>>big deal here.  The basic problem is that people think that cygwin is a
>>standard inscrutable windows app with no way to control their
>>environment if it isn't an option in setup.exe.
>>
>>Maybe that's what needs to go into the FAQ: "You have the power!"
>
>Maybe Gerrit's idea of having a commented rxvt line in cygwin.bat could
>be extended to comment the rxvt line itself as well.  This way, the FAQ
>could simple say "If you don't like the (lame) DOS-box window, edit the
>cygwin.bat file and uncomment the rxvt line for another kind of
>terminal session."

Sounds like it's time for the old "patches gratefully inspected" procedure.

cgf

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Re: cygwin console

[Charles Wilson]

Gerrit P. Haase wrote:


>>Humm.  I comment out the bash line and I add the rxvt line and I get the 
>>"guick flash."  I do have rxvt installed, so what have I done wrong?
>>
> 
> Windows98?
> 
> What happens if you just double click rxvt.exe from explorer?
> I get a whit shell with black font scrollbar at the left.
> 
> Or was it DISPLAY which needs to be exported, though it isn't
> there if I call rxvt directely:


rxvt operates in two modes:
   1) if DISPLAY=:0
      run in "MS Windows" mode -- don't try to use X routines
   2) if DISPLAY=anything else (such as 127.0.0.1:0)
      run in X mode -- you need an Xserver for this to work

 
> Try adding:
> export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
> or this:
> export DISPLAY=:0
> 
> to your ~/.bashrc or /etc/profile


No, that won't help.  Rxvt starts before the bash shell, so you can't 
set DISPLAY from bash startup scripts.  (I'm assuming that you are 
double-clicking a shortcut that starts rxvt).  You need to change the 
DISPLAY settings in (My Computer->Properties->Environment NT/2K) or 
(autoexec.bat W9x/Me).

But people REALLY get annoyed if you mess with their autoexec, so there 
IS another option:

add '-display :0' to your rxvt command line.

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Re: cygwin console

[Joachim Walter]

To get it work for me, I had to include the path to bash

rxvt -e /bin/bash --login -i

probably because I don't have the cygwin paths in my windows PATH.
Once bash starts with --login it reads the /etc/profile and everything 
is ok.

Joachim


Kent Perrier wrote:

> On 1/8/2002 9:55 AM, John Peacock wrote:
> 
>> start from a simple base:
>>
>> rxvt -e bash --login -i
>>
>> and see if that works, then add in the other options.  What I posted 
>> is exactly
>> what I am running (with W2k SP1) so there must be something else going 
>> on.  Are
>> you sure you don't have any strange environment variables set?
> 
> 
> 
> I get the same screen flash. :(
> 
> 
> Kent




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Re: cygwin console

[Gerrit P. Haase]

 Charles,

2002-01-08 17:25:13, du schriebst:

> But people REALLY get annoyed if you mess with their autoexec, so there
> IS another option:

> add '-display :0' to your rxvt command line.

Hmm, I noticed I was wrong in a prior posting,  if I double-click
rxvt.exe from Explorer there is DISPLAY=:0 in the environment and
I have it not as systemwide setting.
(And I have the Cygwin /bin directory in my systemwide PATH setting.)

There may be also a problem with too short memory I noticed on a
Win98 box, I was able to start one rxvt shell window but not a second
one.
Also after closing some other applications like Word doesn't help,
I needed to reboot to get more than this one window then.


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Re: cygwin console

[Kent Perrier]

On 1/8/2002 10:22 AM, Charles Wilson wrote:

> Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
> 
> 
>>> Humm.  I comment out the bash line and I add the rxvt line and I get 
>>> the "guick flash."  I do have rxvt installed, so what have I done wrong?
>>>
>>
>> Windows98?
>>
>> What happens if you just double click rxvt.exe from explorer?
>> I get a whit shell with black font scrollbar at the left.
>>
>> Or was it DISPLAY which needs to be exported, though it isn't
>> there if I call rxvt directely:
> 
> 
> 
> rxvt operates in two modes:
>   1) if DISPLAY=:0
>      run in "MS Windows" mode -- don't try to use X routines
>   2) if DISPLAY=anything else (such as 127.0.0.1:0)
>      run in X mode -- you need an Xserver for this to work
> 
> 
>> Try adding:
>> export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
>> or this:
>> export DISPLAY=:0
>>
>> to your ~/.bashrc or /etc/profile
> 
> 
> 
> No, that won't help.  Rxvt starts before the bash shell, so you can't 
> set DISPLAY from bash startup scripts.  (I'm assuming that you are 
> double-clicking a shortcut that starts rxvt).  You need to change the 
> DISPLAY settings in (My Computer->Properties->Environment NT/2K) or 
> (autoexec.bat W9x/Me).
> 
> But people REALLY get annoyed if you mess with their autoexec, so there 
> IS another option:
> 
> add '-display :0' to your rxvt command line.

Well, I am saddened to report that this does not fix the issue.


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Re: cygwin console

[Kent Perrier]

On 1/8/2002 10:26 AM, Joachim Walter wrote:

> To get it work for me, I had to include the path to bash
> 
> rxvt -e /bin/bash --login -i
> 
> probably because I don't have the cygwin paths in my windows PATH.
> Once bash starts with --login it reads the /etc/profile and everything 
> is ok.


ding ding ding ding!  We have a winner.  This works.

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Re: cygwin console

[Charles Wilson]

Kent Perrier wrote:

>
>> add '-display :0' to your rxvt command line.
> 
> 
> Well, I am saddened to report that this does not fix the issue.


I was afraid of that.  Can you add C:\cygwin\bin to your PATH in 
autoexec.bat, reboot, and try again?  [just an experiment; I'm not 
advocating that setup.exe do this to the autoexec.bat of hapless 
users...yet]

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Re: cygwin console

[Charles Wilson]

Kent Perrier wrote:

> On 1/8/2002 10:26 AM, Joachim Walter wrote:
> 
>> To get it work for me, I had to include the path to bash
>>
>> rxvt -e /bin/bash --login -i
>>
>> probably because I don't have the cygwin paths in my windows PATH.
>> Once bash starts with --login it reads the /etc/profile and everything 
>> is ok.
> 
> 
> 
> ding ding ding ding!  We have a winner.  This works.

Ah, then you don't need to add c:\cygwin\bin to the global path.  Great 
-- I really didn't want to get into having setup.exe muck with autoexec.

So, you want something like:

c:\cygwin\bin\rxvt.exe -display :0 -fn "Lucida Console-12" -fg #202020 
-bg #000000 -sl 2000 -e /bin/bash --login -i

Anybody want to provide a patch for setup.exe so that it adds to 
cygwin.bat a REM commented line similar to the above?

--Chuck


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Re: cygwin console

[Gerrit P. Haase]

 Kent,

2002-01-08 18:12:54, du schriebst:

>> To get it work for me, I had to include the path to bash
>> rxvt -e /bin/bash --login -i

>> probably because I don't have the cygwin paths in my windows PATH.
>> Once bash starts with --login it reads the /etc/profile and everything 
>> is ok.

> ding ding ding ding!  We have a winner.  This works.

Come on, that isn't fair;)
I posted MY shortcut target at the beginning of this thread:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg00370.html


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Re: cygwin console

[Joachim Walter]

Maybe we were all distracted by the many colors in the line ;-)

Joachim

Gerrit P. Haase wrote:

>  Kent,
> 
> 2002-01-08 18:12:54, du schriebst:
> 
> 
>>>To get it work for me, I had to include the path to bash 
>>>rxvt -e /bin/bash --login -i
>>>
> 
>>>probably because I don't have the cygwin paths in my windows PATH.
>>>Once bash starts with --login it reads the /etc/profile and everything 
>>>is ok.
>>>
> 
>>ding ding ding ding!  We have a winner.  This works.
>>
> 
> Come on, that isn't fair;)
> I posted MY shortcut target at the beginning of this thread:
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg00370.html
> 
> 
> Gerrit
> 


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Re: cygwin console

[Warren Young]

John Peacock wrote:
> 
> p.s. and I guess your color scheme isn't so awful; typically you never want to
> have red and blue of the same intensity next to each other, since the same
> cones in your eyes perceive both colors and you can sometimes get the phantom
> movement

I wear glasses that distort blue/red so that as I move my head, the
foreground color appears to move slightly over the top of the
background.  (Some kind of difference in the way the lenses refract the
differing wavelengths.)  It's very annoying, but fortunately red/blue
combinations are pretty rare.
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RE: cygwin console

[Gary R. Van Sickle]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-owner@cygwin.com]On Behalf
> Of Warren Young
> 
> John Peacock wrote:
> > 
> > p.s. and I guess your color scheme isn't so awful; typically you 
> never want to
> > have red and blue of the same intensity next to each other, since the same
> > cones in your eyes perceive both colors and you can sometimes get 
> the phantom
> > movement
> 
> I wear glasses that distort blue/red so that as I move my head, the
> foreground color appears to move slightly over the top of the
> background.  (Some kind of difference in the way the lenses refract the
> differing wavelengths.)  It's very annoying, but fortunately red/blue
> combinations are pretty rare.

Rxvt in Super-3D.  Sweet.

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Re: cygwin console

[Igor Bujna]

Gerrit P. Haase wrote:

> Kent,
>
> 2002-01-08 18:12:54, du schriebst:
>
>>> To get it work for me, I had to include the path to bash
>>> rxvt -e /bin/bash --login -i
>>>
>
>>> probably because I don't have the cygwin paths in my windows PATH.
>>> Once bash starts with --login it reads the /etc/profile and 
>>> everything is ok.
>>>
>
>> ding ding ding ding!  We have a winner.  This works.
>>
>
> Come on, that isn't fair;)
> I posted MY shortcut target at the beginning of this thread:
> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg00370.html
>
>
> Gerrit
>
Hi,
its very good. Bad i have some program  with ncurses. On the screen i 
see the box() function in curses creates an ugly looking box, where the 
extended characters drawing the box (ACS_VLINE, ACS_HLINE) are replaced 
with characters from the lower ASCII set (3 and Ä). This code works fine 
under VT100 terminal settings.
Thanks and bye


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Re: cygwin console

[Pavel Tsekov]

Igor Bujna wrote:

> Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
> 
>> Kent,
>>
>> 2002-01-08 18:12:54, du schriebst:
>>
>>>> To get it work for me, I had to include the path to bash
>>>> rxvt -e /bin/bash --login -i
>>>>
>>
>>>> probably because I don't have the cygwin paths in my windows PATH.
>>>> Once bash starts with --login it reads the /etc/profile and 
>>>> everything is ok.
>>>>
>>
>>> ding ding ding ding!  We have a winner.  This works.
>>>
>>
>> Come on, that isn't fair;)
>> I posted MY shortcut target at the beginning of this thread:
>> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg00370.html
>>
>>
>> Gerrit
>>
> Hi,
> its very good. Bad i have some program  with ncurses. On the screen i 
> see the box() function in curses creates an ugly looking box, where the 
> extended characters drawing the box (ACS_VLINE, ACS_HLINE) are replaced 
> with characters from the lower ASCII set (3 and Ä). This code works fine 
> under VT100 terminal settings.


If you set the global CYGWIN environment variable to codepage:ansi the 
problem
should disappear - or am I wrong ?


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Re: cygwin console

[egor duda]

Hi!

Wednesday, 09 January, 2002 Pavel Tsekov ptsekov@syntrex.com wrote:

>> its very good. Bad i have some program  with ncurses. On the screen i
>> see the box() function in curses creates an ugly looking box, where the 
>> extended characters drawing the box (ACS_VLINE, ACS_HLINE) are replaced 
>> with characters from the lower ASCII set (3 and Ä). This code works fine 
>> under VT100 terminal settings.

PT> If you set the global CYGWIN environment variable to codepage:ansi the 
PT> problem should disappear - or am I wrong ?

exactly the opposite. codepage:ansi is a default setting, and to draw
"pretty boxes" one should use codepage:oem. Ain't it mentioned in
ncurses README?

Egor.            mailto:deo@logos-m.ru ICQ 5165414 FidoNet 2:5020/496.19


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Re: cygwin console

[Pavel Tsekov]

Oooops! Sorry, for the wrong info - seems I'm more stupid
than usual today :(

egor duda wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> Wednesday, 09 January, 2002 Pavel Tsekov ptsekov@syntrex.com wrote:
> 
> 
>>>its very good. Bad i have some program  with ncurses. On the screen i
>>>see the box() function in curses creates an ugly looking box, where the 
>>>extended characters drawing the box (ACS_VLINE, ACS_HLINE) are replaced 
>>>with characters from the lower ASCII set (3 and Ä). This code works fine 
>>>under VT100 terminal settings.
>>>
> 
> PT> If you set the global CYGWIN environment variable to codepage:ansi the 
> PT> problem should disappear - or am I wrong ?
> 
> exactly the opposite. codepage:ansi is a default setting, and to draw
> "pretty boxes" one should use codepage:oem. Ain't it mentioned in
> ncurses README?



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Re: cygwin console

[Igor Bujna]

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avel Tsekov wrote:

>
>
> Igor Bujna wrote:
>
>> Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
>>
>>> Kent,
>>>
>>> 2002-01-08 18:12:54, du schriebst:
>>>
>>>>> To get it work for me, I had to include the path to bash
>>>>> rxvt -e /bin/bash --login -i
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> probably because I don't have the cygwin paths in my windows PATH.
>>>>> Once bash starts with --login it reads the /etc/profile and 
>>>>> everything is ok.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> ding ding ding ding!  We have a winner.  This works.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Come on, that isn't fair;)
>>> I posted MY shortcut target at the beginning of this thread:
>>> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg00370.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerrit
>>>
>> Hi,
>> its very good. Bad i have some program  with ncurses. On the screen i 
>> see the box() function in curses creates an ugly looking box, where 
>> the extended characters drawing the box (ACS_VLINE, ACS_HLINE) are 
>> replaced with characters from the lower ASCII set (3 and Ä). This 
>> code works fine under VT100 terminal settings.
>
>
>
>
> If you set the global CYGWIN environment variable to codepage:ansi the 
> problem
> should disappear - or am I wrong ?


It's not work.
For normal bash i must have codepage:oem .But under rxvt it's not working.


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Re: cygwin console

[Charles Wilson]

Try installing this font:  Lucida ConsoleP from 
http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils/unversioned/bashprompt/

It is Lucida Console, reencoded to put the linedraw chars where 
codepage:oem expects them.  Then, start rxvt as:

rxvt -fn "Lucida ConsoleP-14" .....

(also, you may need to set your TERM variable to 'rxvt-cygwin-native')

--Chuck


Igor Bujna wrote:

> avel Tsekov wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Igor Bujna wrote:
>>
>>> Gerrit P. Haase wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kent,
>>>>
>>>> 2002-01-08 18:12:54, du schriebst:
>>>>
>>>>>> To get it work for me, I had to include the path to bash
>>>>>> rxvt -e /bin/bash --login -i
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> probably because I don't have the cygwin paths in my windows PATH.
>>>>>> Once bash starts with --login it reads the /etc/profile and 
>>>>>> everything is ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ding ding ding ding!  We have a winner.  This works.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Come on, that isn't fair;)
>>>> I posted MY shortcut target at the beginning of this thread:
>>>> http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2002-01/msg00370.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gerrit
>>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> its very good. Bad i have some program  with ncurses. On the screen i 
>>> see the box() function in curses creates an ugly looking box, where 
>>> the extended characters drawing the box (ACS_VLINE, ACS_HLINE) are 
>>> replaced with characters from the lower ASCII set (3 and Ä). This 
>>> code works fine under VT100 terminal settings.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> If you set the global CYGWIN environment variable to codepage:ansi the 
>> problem
>> should disappear - or am I wrong ?
> 
> 
> 
> It's not work.
> For normal bash i must have codepage:oem .But under rxvt it's not working.
> 
> 



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Re: cygwin console

[Charles Wilson]

Please keep replies on the list.

Igor Bujna wrote:

> Charles Wilson wrote:
> 
>> Try installing this font:  Lucida ConsoleP from 
>> http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils/unversioned/bashprompt/ 
>>
>>
>> It is Lucida Console, reencoded to put the linedraw chars where 
>> codepage:oem expects them.  Then, start rxvt as:
>>
>> rxvt -fn "Lucida ConsoleP-14" .....
>>
>> (also, you may need to set your TERM variable to 'rxvt-cygwin-native')
>>
>> --Chuck
> 
> 
> I make somethings wrong.
> I have Win98 Second editions.in autoexec.bat i have this 'SET 
> CYGWIN=codepage:oem'. I download the fonts Lucida ConsoleP end after i 
> this *.ttf put into c:\windows\fonts.
> I have script clock.bat:
> @echo off
> rxvt -tn rxvt-cygwin-native -fg lightblue -bg midnightblue -cr red 
> -title -fn "Lucida ConsoleP-12" -e /bin/bash



> And after i try to echo $TERM and i get rxvt-cywgin-native.
> Then i run test program ./gdc.exe(this is test program from ncurses->a 
> clock.This clock is in box().I put this in attachments )
> I must see ACS_VLINE , but i see '33333'.
> What im doing wrong.

I don't know.  Did you reboot?  Until you reboot, the change you made in 
autoexec.bat won't have any effect.  I just tried this myself, and it 
worked fine.  ACS_VLINE and all.

BTW, there was no need to send the binary -- gdc.exe is in 
/usr/bin/ncurses-test-dll/

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Re: cygwin console

[Igor Bujna]

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Charles Wilson wrote:

> Please keep replies on the list.
>
> Igor Bujna wrote:
>
>> Charles Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Try installing this font:  Lucida ConsoleP from 
>>> http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils/unversioned/bashprompt/ 
>>>
>>>
>>> It is Lucida Console, reencoded to put the linedraw chars where 
>>> codepage:oem expects them.  Then, start rxvt as:
>>>
>>> rxvt -fn "Lucida ConsoleP-14" .....
>>>
>>> (also, you may need to set your TERM variable to 'rxvt-cygwin-native')
>>>
>>> --Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> I make somethings wrong.
>> I have Win98 Second editions.in autoexec.bat i have this 'SET 
>> CYGWIN=codepage:oem'. I download the fonts Lucida ConsoleP end after 
>> i this *.ttf put into c:\windows\fonts.
>> I have script clock.bat:
>> @echo off
>> rxvt -tn rxvt-cygwin-native -fg lightblue -bg midnightblue -cr red 
>> -title -fn "Lucida ConsoleP-12" -e /bin/bash
>
>
>
>
>> And after i try to echo $TERM and i get rxvt-cywgin-native.
>> Then i run test program ./gdc.exe(this is test program from 
>> ncurses->a clock.This clock is in box().I put this in attachments )
>> I must see ACS_VLINE , but i see '33333'.
>> What im doing wrong.
>
>
> I don't know.  Did you reboot?  Until you reboot, the change you made 
> in autoexec.bat won't have any effect.  I just tried this myself, and 
> it worked fine.  ACS_VLINE and all.

OK.now its running.Thanks very much.
This is the script clock.bat:
@echo off
start rxvt -fn "Lucida ConsoleP-20" -tn rxvt-cygwin-native -geometry 
110x40 -fg lightblue -bg midnightblue -vb -sr +sb -title  -e ./gdc.exe 
Can i see the blink cursor???
I have program when i must change color of cursor.Can i do this.On rxvt 
i see cursor in light blue color.
Bye

>
> BTW, there was no need to send the binary -- gdc.exe is in 
> /usr/bin/ncurses-test-dll/
>
> --Chuck
>
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Re: cygwin console

[Matthew Smith]

Another thing we could think about is to simply make a second shortcut to
rxvt.  I normally have both a shortcut to rxvt and the cygwin console, as
each works well for certain tasks.  For instance, cvs updates seem to work
better for me from a cygwin console for some reason.

cheers,
-Matt Smith

>Ah, then you don't need to add c:\cygwin\bin to the global path.  Great
>-- I really didn't want to get into having setup.exe muck with autoexec.
>
>So, you want something like:
>
>c:\cygwin\bin\rxvt.exe -display :0 -fn "Lucida Console-12" -fg #202020
>-bg #000000 -sl 2000 -e /bin/bash --login -i
>
>Anybody want to provide a patch for setup.exe so that it adds to
>cygwin.bat a REM commented line similar to the above?
>
>--Chuck




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Re: cygwin console

[Christopher Faylor]

No personal cygwin email, please.

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:45:00PM +0530, Kiran Prakash wrote:
>>>cygwin's pty emulation doesnt even work with some cygwin apps
>>>(for example talk, the message telling the user about the talk is
>>>swallowed) 
>>
>>Uh.  Yeah.  Right.  Swallowed.  Sure. 
>>
>>cgf
>
>Seriously, "who" reports a different tty from the "tty" command
>if im using rxvt. thus the talk message always goes to the 
>background console, and i cant even force it to the proper 
>rxvt console, since im not logged in to that console
>according to who.
>
>for example,
>
>$ who
>kiran    tty0     Jan  8 21:40
>
>$ tty
>/dev/tty1
>
>I asked this once on the list, but no one replied. :P
>
>Thanks lots for listening (even for that kind of a sceptic reply ...),
>Kiran Prakash
>
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Re: cygwin console

[Christopher Faylor]

On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:29:09PM +0530, Kiran Prakash wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:39:39 -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> cygwin's pty emulation does not work with every windows application.  I
>> don't think we should default to using rxvt for this reason.
>
>cygwin's pty emulation doesnt even work with some cygwin apps
>(for example talk, the message telling the user about the talk is 
>swallowed)

Uh.  Yeah.  Right.  Swallowed.  Sure.

cgf

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Re: cygwin console

[Kiran Prakash]

On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 10:39:39 -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> cygwin's pty emulation does not work with every windows application.  I
> don't think we should default to using rxvt for this reason.

cygwin's pty emulation doesnt even work with some cygwin apps
(for example talk, the message telling the user about the talk is 
swallowed)

I agree that rxvt shouldnt be made default until atleast this is fixed.

Kiran Prakash


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RE: cygwin console

[Bernard Dautrevaux]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Peacock [mailto:jpeacock@rowman.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 3:21 PM
> To: David Starks-Browning
> Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: cygwin console
> 
> 
> David Starks-Browning wrote:
> > 
> > On Tuesday 8 Jan 02, Gerrit P. Haase writes:
> > > I think `rxvt' should be the default shell for Cygwin after a
> > > fresh setup.  At least for Win98 users.
> > 
> > I fully agree, but who is going to do the work?
> > 
> 
> The change is truly trivial:
> 
> --- cygwin.bat.orig     Tue Jan  8 09:15:22 2002
> +++ cygwin.bat  Tue Jan  8 09:20:22 2002
> @@ -3,4 +3,4 @@
>  D:
>  chdir \cygwin\bin
>  
> -bash --login -i
> +start rxvt -sl 300 -e bash --login -i
> 
> but since this file is, I believe, originally created by the 
> CygWin installer, 
> the change needs to happen there.

There is another change that's needed: rxvt should be placed in the "Base"
category so that it is installed by default. But altogether this should be
quite a good move.

Thanks again for all the good work,

	Bernard

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