Emacs Gnus elisp source?

Emacs Gnus elisp source?

[Stephen Leake]

I'm using the Cygwin X version of Emacs Gnus for email. I recently
switched from some other version of TLS to the Cygwin gnutls.

When I switched, it started prompting me for the send password with each
email I send. Previously, it would cache the password somewhere.

I'd like to debug this, but the elisp source files are missing, and I
don't see how to get the Cygwin installer to install them.

I also don't see the precise version on the FSF Gnu FTP site; Emacs
reports 23.2.1, but I only see 23.2 there.

Where and how do I get the elisp source for Cygwin X Emacs?

Hints on getting gnutls to work better with Emacs Gnus are also welcome.

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Re: Emacs Gnus elisp source?

[Ken Brown]

On 10/4/2010 1:07 PM, Stephen Leake wrote:
> I'm using the Cygwin X version of Emacs Gnus for email. I recently
> switched from some other version of TLS to the Cygwin gnutls.
>
> When I switched, it started prompting me for the send password with each
> email I send. Previously, it would cache the password somewhere.
>
> I'd like to debug this, but the elisp source files are missing, and I
> don't see how to get the Cygwin installer to install them.

The elisp source files are in the emacs-el package.

> I also don't see the precise version on the FSF Gnu FTP site; Emacs
> reports 23.2.1, but I only see 23.2 there.

This is a common source of confusion.  The short answer is that you 
should ignore the final '.1'.  For a longer answer, see

   http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2010-08/msg00891.html

> Hints on getting gnutls to work better with Emacs Gnus are also welcome.

There's been a lot of discussion about this lately on the emacs-devel 
mailing list, which I haven't been following in detail.  I think you can 
expect a lot of improvement in gnutls integration in emacs-24, but 
probably not before that.

Ken

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Re: Emacs Gnus elisp source?

[Stephen Leake]

Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu> writes:

> On 10/4/2010 1:07 PM, Stephen Leake wrote:
>> I'm using the Cygwin X version of Emacs Gnus for email. I recently
>> switched from some other version of TLS to the Cygwin gnutls.
>>
>> When I switched, it started prompting me for the send password with each
>> email I send. Previously, it would cache the password somewhere.
>>
>> I'd like to debug this, but the elisp source files are missing, and I
>> don't see how to get the Cygwin installer to install them.
>
> The elisp source files are in the emacs-el package.

Ah. I did look, but apparently I just didn't see that. Sorry for the
noise.

Now I can see the sources; thanks.

>> I also don't see the precise version on the FSF Gnu FTP site; Emacs
>> reports 23.2.1, but I only see 23.2 there.
>
> This is a common source of confusion.  The short answer is that you 
> should ignore the final '.1'.  For a longer answer, see
>
>    http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2010-08/msg00891.html

Ok, thanks; I've never noticed that before.

>> Hints on getting gnutls to work better with Emacs Gnus are also welcome.
>
> There's been a lot of discussion about this lately on the emacs-devel 
> mailing list, which I haven't been following in detail.  

Me either; too much traffic.

> I think you can expect a lot of improvement in gnutls integration in
> emacs-24, but probably not before that.

Ok, thanks

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Re: Emacs Gnus elisp source?

[Stephen Leake]

Stephen Leake <stephen.a.leake@nasa.gov> writes:

> Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu> writes:
>
>> On 10/4/2010 1:07 PM, Stephen Leake wrote:
>>> I'm using the Cygwin X version of Emacs Gnus for email. I recently
>>> switched from some other version of TLS to the Cygwin gnutls.
>>>
>>> When I switched, it started prompting me for the send password with each
>>> email I send. Previously, it would cache the password somewhere.
>>>
>>> I'd like to debug this, but the elisp source files are missing, and I
>>> don't see how to get the Cygwin installer to install them.
>>
>> The elisp source files are in the emacs-el package.
>
> Ah. I did look, but apparently I just didn't see that. Sorry for the
> noise.
>
> Now I can see the sources; thanks.

Just FYI, the problem turned out to be password-cache-expiry; it was set
to 16 seconds.

I had upgraded Emacs versions as well, apparently this is a new feature.

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