From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Norman Walsh To: "Alex Birkett" Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:00 -0000 Message-id: <87vgr7ib79.fsf@nwalsh.com> References: <001e01c083a1$470d4840$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> <873debznn8.fsf@nwalsh.com> <001101c08496$3f7ea880$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> X-SW-Source: 2001/msg00012.html / "Alex Birkett" was heard to say: | The bibliography is placed at the end of the sgml source document (I don't | think that this makes much difference anyway). BTW db2pdf places the | bibliography at the end of the document as I wish. Judging by the table of contents in your HTML document: Table of Contents Revised Aims and Objectives Progress to date Achieved objectives Work in Progress Revised Gantt Chart References it looks like References occurs at the end of the HTML. I'm still confused. What's incorrect about the HTML placement? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh | All professional men are handicapped by http://nwalsh.com/ | not being allowed to ignore things | which are useless.--Goethe From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alex Birkett" To: "Norman Walsh" Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:00 -0000 Message-id: <001101c08496$3f7ea880$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> References: <001e01c083a1$470d4840$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> <873debznn8.fsf@nwalsh.com> X-SW-Source: 2001/msg00011.html I am honoured to receive your email. I will attempt to explain myself more clearly. The page attached to the previous email was the front page generated by jade (db2html). The section titled "references" is a bibliography. The source sgml is included here: References WEB1 <ulink url=" http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/jakarta-tomcat/src/doc/uguide/tomcat_u g.html"></ulink> Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide The bibliography is placed at the end of the sgml source document (I don't think that this makes much difference anyway). BTW db2pdf places the bibliography at the end of the document as I wish. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Walsh" To: "Alex Birkett" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages > / "Alex Birkett" was heard to say: > | I use db2html to publish a DocBook document. A problem I have is that the > | bibliography is rendered on the front page. The page is attached to this > | email (the bibliography is titled references). Is there a way to make the > | bibliography appear at the end of the document? > > I'm not sure I understand. I don't see a bibliography in this document. > Do you mean the bibligraphic data (author, department, supervisor and > such), or am I confused? > > Be seeing you, > norm > > -- > Norman Walsh | Unless one is a genius, it is best to > http://nwalsh.com/ | aim at being intelligible.--Anthony Hope > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Norman Walsh To: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:00 -0000 Message-id: <87puhe6ufj.fsf@nwalsh.com> References: X-SW-Source: 2001/msg00015.html / Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl was heard to say: | Another sample can be found on: | http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/Netscape_and_OpenLDAP_v2/netscape-and-openldap-v2.html | | Which may show it more clearly. (This was generated using a docbook 3.1 | source.) Whoa! That's bizarre. Can you send me the SGML sources for this? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh | It is seldom that any liberty is lost http://nwalsh.com/ | all at once.--David Hume From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Norman Walsh To: "Alex Birkett" Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:00 -0000 Message-id: <873debznn8.fsf@nwalsh.com> References: <001e01c083a1$470d4840$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> X-SW-Source: 2001/msg00010.html / "Alex Birkett" was heard to say: | I use db2html to publish a DocBook document. A problem I have is that the | bibliography is rendered on the front page. The page is attached to this | email (the bibliography is titled references). Is there a way to make the | bibliography appear at the end of the document? I'm not sure I understand. I don't see a bibliography in this document. Do you mean the bibligraphic data (author, department, supervisor and such), or am I confused? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh | Unless one is a genius, it is best to http://nwalsh.com/ | aim at being intelligible.--Anthony Hope From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl To: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:00 -0000 Message-id: References: <873debznn8.fsf@nwalsh.com> X-SW-Source: 2001/msg00013.html On 22 Jan 2001, Norman Walsh wrote: > / "Alex Birkett" was heard to say: > | I use db2html to publish a DocBook document. A problem I have is that the > | bibliography is rendered on the front page. The page is attached to this > | email (the bibliography is titled references). Is there a way to make the > | bibliography appear at the end of the document? > > I'm not sure I understand. I don't see a bibliography in this document. > Do you mean the bibligraphic data (author, department, supervisor and > such), or am I confused? Norm, I think he means: References [WEB1]  http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/jakarta-tomcat/src/doc/uguide/tomcat_ug html Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide. Another sample can be found on: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/Netscape_and_OpenLDAP_v2/netscape-and-openldap-v2.html Which may show it more clearly. (This was generated using a docbook 3.1 source.) Hugo. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij@caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- This message has not been checked and may contain harmfull content. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Norman Walsh To: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:00 -0000 Message-id: <87hf2q5bjm.fsf@nwalsh.com> References: X-SW-Source: 2001/msg00017.html / Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl was heard to say: | > Whoa! That's bizarre. Can you send me the SGML sources for this? | | They are on my homepage as well. (It is open source documentation.) Fixed. Here's a patch for the impatient :-) BTW, Hugo, you've got some typos in that bibliography, ...<title> where you meant <title>.... hermes:/share/dsssl/docbook/html$ cvs diff cvs diff: Diffing . Index: dbbibl.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /share/cvs/dbdsssl/html/dbbibl.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -r1.2 dbbibl.dsl 59a60,70 > (element (article bibliography) > (let ((title (element-title-sosofo (current-node))) > (body (make sequence > (make element gi: "A" > attributes: (list (list "NAME" (element-id))) > (empty-sosofo)) > ($component-separator$) > ($component-title$) > (bibliography-content)))) > (html-document title body))) > Index: dbchunk.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /share/cvs/dbdsssl/html/dbchunk.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -r1.2 dbchunk.dsl 70c70 < ;; occur in book. --- > ;; occur in book or article. 75c75,76 < (not (equal? (gi (parent nd)) (normalize "book")))) --- > (not (or (equal? (gi (parent nd)) (normalize "book")) > (equal? (gi (parent nd)) (normalize "article"))))) Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh | Perhaps, but let's not get bogged down http://nwalsh.com/ | in semantics.--Homer J. Simpson, BABF07 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl To: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:00 -0000 Message-id: References: <87hf2q5bjm.fsf@nwalsh.com> X-SW-Source: 2001/msg00018.html On 23 Jan 2001, Norman Walsh wrote: > / Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl was heard to say: > | > Whoa! That's bizarre. Can you send me the SGML sources for this? > | > | They are on my homepage as well. (It is open source documentation.) > > Fixed. Here's a patch for the impatient :-) > > BTW, Hugo, you've got some typos in that bibliography, > ...<title> where you meant <title>.... Got them fixed. But I need to inspect what I did to hose my setup as HTML file generation now dies using sgmltools-lite. (It worked a few weeks ago but I may have made some other changes I forgot about. in order to get more LDP like output for PS/PDF files.) Hugo. ps: I prefer to get just one message and not two. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij@caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- This message has not been checked and may contain harmfull content. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl To: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:00 -0000 Message-id: References: <87puhe6ufj.fsf@nwalsh.com> X-SW-Source: 2001/msg00016.html On 23 Jan 2001, Norman Walsh wrote: > / Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl was heard to say: > | Another sample can be found on: > | http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/Netscape_and_OpenLDAP_v2/netscape-and-openldap-v2.html > | > | Which may show it more clearly. (This was generated using a docbook 3.1 > | source.) > > Whoa! That's bizarre. Can you send me the SGML sources for this? They are on my homepage as well. (It is open source documentation.) Hugo. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij@caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- This message has not been checked and may contain harmfull content. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alex Birkett" To: Subject: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 22:49:00 -0000 Message-id: <001e01c083a1$470d4840$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> X-SW-Source: 2001/msg00009.html Hi, I use db2html to publish a DocBook document. A problem I have is that the bibliography is rendered on the front page. The page is attached to this email (the bibliography is titled references). Is there a way to make the bibliography appear at the end of the document? Thanks, Alex From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alex Birkett" To: Subject: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 03:58:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c083a1$470d4840$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> X-SW-Source: 2001-q1/msg00009.html Message-ID: <20010121035800.subl2bqC-vhguJjfpeub64nnf1ibJcuS81nEYQoBC9M@z> Hi, I use db2html to publish a DocBook document. A problem I have is that the bibliography is rendered on the front page. The page is attached to this email (the bibliography is titled references). Is there a way to make the bibliography appear at the end of the document? Thanks, Alex From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Norman Walsh To: "Alex Birkett" Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 06:07:00 -0000 Message-ID: <873debznn8.fsf@nwalsh.com> References: <001e01c083a1$470d4840$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> X-SW-Source: 2001-q1/msg00010.html Message-ID: <20010122060700.mTfc6Z5aYYMyK8F4H8CNEYDtjrkKggolGdf4f33wbAg@z> / "Alex Birkett" was heard to say: | I use db2html to publish a DocBook document. A problem I have is that the | bibliography is rendered on the front page. The page is attached to this | email (the bibliography is titled references). Is there a way to make the | bibliography appear at the end of the document? I'm not sure I understand. I don't see a bibliography in this document. Do you mean the bibligraphic data (author, department, supervisor and such), or am I confused? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh | Unless one is a genius, it is best to http://nwalsh.com/ | aim at being intelligible.--Anthony Hope From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Alex Birkett" To: "Norman Walsh" Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:12:00 -0000 Message-ID: <001101c08496$3f7ea880$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> References: <001e01c083a1$470d4840$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> <873debznn8.fsf@nwalsh.com> X-SW-Source: 2001-q1/msg00011.html Message-ID: <20010122091200.omUgQnagJF_BJZT2_cV_5rBghBwC3VDBg1Hc9Q9a_Vo@z> I am honoured to receive your email. I will attempt to explain myself more clearly. The page attached to the previous email was the front page generated by jade (db2html). The section titled "references" is a bibliography. The source sgml is included here: References WEB1 <ulink url=" http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/jakarta-tomcat/src/doc/uguide/tomcat_u g.html"></ulink> Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide The bibliography is placed at the end of the sgml source document (I don't think that this makes much difference anyway). BTW db2pdf places the bibliography at the end of the document as I wish. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norman Walsh" To: "Alex Birkett" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages > / "Alex Birkett" was heard to say: > | I use db2html to publish a DocBook document. A problem I have is that the > | bibliography is rendered on the front page. The page is attached to this > | email (the bibliography is titled references). Is there a way to make the > | bibliography appear at the end of the document? > > I'm not sure I understand. I don't see a bibliography in this document. > Do you mean the bibligraphic data (author, department, supervisor and > such), or am I confused? > > Be seeing you, > norm > > -- > Norman Walsh | Unless one is a genius, it is best to > http://nwalsh.com/ | aim at being intelligible.--Anthony Hope > From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Norman Walsh To: "Alex Birkett" Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:28:00 -0000 Message-ID: <87vgr7ib79.fsf@nwalsh.com> References: <001e01c083a1$470d4840$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> <873debznn8.fsf@nwalsh.com> <001101c08496$3f7ea880$2a00a8c0@blitzkreg> X-SW-Source: 2001-q1/msg00012.html Message-ID: <20010122122800.MtANaBbX0i_g1_VemwbEWCaN-GrmE7b6nn5X-shmcaM@z> / "Alex Birkett" was heard to say: | The bibliography is placed at the end of the sgml source document (I don't | think that this makes much difference anyway). BTW db2pdf places the | bibliography at the end of the document as I wish. Judging by the table of contents in your HTML document: Table of Contents Revised Aims and Objectives Progress to date Achieved objectives Work in Progress Revised Gantt Chart References it looks like References occurs at the end of the HTML. I'm still confused. What's incorrect about the HTML placement? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh | All professional men are handicapped by http://nwalsh.com/ | not being allowed to ignore things | which are useless.--Goethe From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl To: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:30:00 -0000 Message-ID: References: <873debznn8.fsf@nwalsh.com> X-SW-Source: 2001-q1/msg00013.html Message-ID: <20010122123000.XwpjUM7N-999DE0w25vqKFzMqxfPuFohf7hsRxKyrXg@z> On 22 Jan 2001, Norman Walsh wrote: > / "Alex Birkett" was heard to say: > | I use db2html to publish a DocBook document. A problem I have is that the > | bibliography is rendered on the front page. The page is attached to this > | email (the bibliography is titled references). Is there a way to make the > | bibliography appear at the end of the document? > > I'm not sure I understand. I don't see a bibliography in this document. > Do you mean the bibligraphic data (author, department, supervisor and > such), or am I confused? Norm, I think he means: References [WEB1]  http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/jakarta-tomcat/src/doc/uguide/tomcat_ug html Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide. Another sample can be found on: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/Netscape_and_OpenLDAP_v2/netscape-and-openldap-v2.html Which may show it more clearly. (This was generated using a docbook 3.1 source.) Hugo. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij@caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- This message has not been checked and may contain harmfull content. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Norman Walsh To: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:38:00 -0000 Message-ID: <87puhe6ufj.fsf@nwalsh.com> References: X-SW-Source: 2001-q1/msg00015.html Message-ID: <20010123093800.-T3_LaugZnDYjbSzhTKkt9rCIyXVXuv1XNUWIUP1bLk@z> / Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl was heard to say: | Another sample can be found on: | http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/Netscape_and_OpenLDAP_v2/netscape-and-openldap-v2.html | | Which may show it more clearly. (This was generated using a docbook 3.1 | source.) Whoa! That's bizarre. Can you send me the SGML sources for this? Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh | It is seldom that any liberty is lost http://nwalsh.com/ | all at once.--David Hume From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl To: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:15:00 -0000 Message-ID: References: <87puhe6ufj.fsf@nwalsh.com> X-SW-Source: 2001-q1/msg00016.html Message-ID: <20010123101500.IkJ8_-taa_N2FWqqiuMXdEqELbUEjNHLFjzfZC2w88Y@z> On 23 Jan 2001, Norman Walsh wrote: > / Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl was heard to say: > | Another sample can be found on: > | http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/Netscape_and_OpenLDAP_v2/netscape-and-openldap-v2.html > | > | Which may show it more clearly. (This was generated using a docbook 3.1 > | source.) > > Whoa! That's bizarre. Can you send me the SGML sources for this? They are on my homepage as well. (It is open source documentation.) Hugo. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij@caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- This message has not been checked and may contain harmfull content. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Norman Walsh To: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl Cc: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:11:00 -0000 Message-ID: <87hf2q5bjm.fsf@nwalsh.com> References: X-SW-Source: 2001-q1/msg00017.html Message-ID: <20010123111100.l1NguwCBuDS8gEmZGaWwG7LMuT9Vd7VdMXBb0swsqe0@z> / Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl was heard to say: | > Whoa! That's bizarre. Can you send me the SGML sources for this? | | They are on my homepage as well. (It is open source documentation.) Fixed. Here's a patch for the impatient :-) BTW, Hugo, you've got some typos in that bibliography, ...<title> where you meant <title>.... hermes:/share/dsssl/docbook/html$ cvs diff cvs diff: Diffing . Index: dbbibl.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /share/cvs/dbdsssl/html/dbbibl.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -r1.2 dbbibl.dsl 59a60,70 > (element (article bibliography) > (let ((title (element-title-sosofo (current-node))) > (body (make sequence > (make element gi: "A" > attributes: (list (list "NAME" (element-id))) > (empty-sosofo)) > ($component-separator$) > ($component-title$) > (bibliography-content)))) > (html-document title body))) > Index: dbchunk.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /share/cvs/dbdsssl/html/dbchunk.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -r1.2 dbchunk.dsl 70c70 < ;; occur in book. --- > ;; occur in book or article. 75c75,76 < (not (equal? (gi (parent nd)) (normalize "book")))) --- > (not (or (equal? (gi (parent nd)) (normalize "book")) > (equal? (gi (parent nd)) (normalize "article"))))) Be seeing you, norm -- Norman Walsh | Perhaps, but let's not get bogged down http://nwalsh.com/ | in semantics.--Homer J. Simpson, BABF07 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl To: Subject: Re: db2html publishes bibliography on front pages Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:29:00 -0000 Message-ID: References: <87hf2q5bjm.fsf@nwalsh.com> X-SW-Source: 2001-q1/msg00018.html Message-ID: <20010123122900.62yvkVrvSg8n0PYyCBXgxkNod9xY_wBc2odhfZ_2_SM@z> On 23 Jan 2001, Norman Walsh wrote: > / Hugo.van.der.Kooij@caiw.nl was heard to say: > | > Whoa! That's bizarre. Can you send me the SGML sources for this? > | > | They are on my homepage as well. (It is open source documentation.) > > Fixed. Here's a patch for the impatient :-) > > BTW, Hugo, you've got some typos in that bibliography, > ...<title> where you meant <title>.... Got them fixed. But I need to inspect what I did to hose my setup as HTML file generation now dies using sgmltools-lite. (It worked a few weeks ago but I may have made some other changes I forgot about. in order to get more LDP like output for PS/PDF files.) Hugo. ps: I prefer to get just one message and not two. -- Hugo van der Kooij; Oranje Nassaustraat 16; 3155 VJ Maasland hvdkooij@caiw.nl http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hvdkooij/ -------------------------------------------------------------- This message has not been checked and may contain harmfull content.