From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Eric Bischoff To: docbook-tools-discuss@sourceware.cygnus.com Cc: kde-docbook@kde.org Subject: Docbook tools Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 14:13:00 -0000 Message-id: <99090522193703.00542@r12m10.cybercable.tm.fr> X-SW-Source: 1999/msg00050.html Hello everybody, My name is Eric Bischoff and I recently subscribed to docbook-tools-discuss at Cygnus. I am participating to the KDE project as documentation coordinator. KDE is an integrated desktop for Unix systems and has several links with the Linux project and other free software initiatives. Visit http://www.kde.org for more information. We at KDE are in the process of changing our documentation file format from LinuxDoc-SGML to DocBook-SGML. In order to make it easy for our many translators and documentation writers to use DocBook tools such as James Clark's Jade, the OASIS DocBook DTD and Norman Walsh Stylesheet, I was planning to package all this stuff all together - exactly what you have done at Cygnus. So it is very likely that such an effort should not be duplicate, and that we should use Cygnus tools here at KDE, maybe with some extensions and/or parametrization for the specific needs of the KDE project. The DocBook team at KDE has also developped some tools that could prove of some interest for other users, such as a crash course to DocBook that people report to be of quality. Have a look at http://www.kde.org/documentation/docbook/index.html . I had not the time to examine the details of Cygnus packaging, this will be done in the next days. But a few questions I would love to ask have already arisen : - You have packaged nearly exactly the same tools I was planning to, with the same version numbers. There is one main exception, Norman Walsh's stylesheet. I may be wrong, but it looks like you have packaged version 0.10, whereas version 1.42 is the current one. Is there a reason for that ? - Why not putting everything in a single tarball / RPM / SRPM ? There could be a single ./configure / make / make install sequence. - It is indeed a very good idea to use RPM packages for those using RedHat-based systems (I am one, I am using LinuxPPC for Macintosh ;-) ). What is the reason for putting both the 3.0 version and the 3.1 version of the DocBook DTD in the RPM archive? It makes the file bigger. - Have you encountered the same problems we have encountered with non-English languages and the TeX backend ? We did not manage to make the Babel package work with French, and we still feel very unsecure about Corean, Chinese (all encodings), Greek and Russian. We also would love to switch to Unicode encoding for all non-latin languages. Have you already any experience about that ? - I don't know what the hyperref package is and why it may be part of DocBook tools. Maybe I should try harder to understand that. Any help ? I hope that all these questions are interesting this discussion list, I apologize in advance for not having read all the archive of this mailing list, I was short in time. Eric PS I will forward the reply(ies) to the KDE DocBook team : Frederik Fouvry and David Rugge. -- __________________________________________________ .~. "Release of Windows 2000 has been /V\ postponed until January 1, 1901" // \\ /( )\ ^^-^^ __________________________________________________ Eric Bischoff - mailto:ebisch@cybercable.tm.fr