From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Ling Su" To: , "Alfredo Knecht" Cc: "Jonathan Larmour" Subject: Re: [ECOS] Re: eCos PCI problem and NEC vrc4373 build option. Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:42:00 -0000 Message-id: <003201c012e4$bf965dc0$1201a8c0@crusoe> References: <20000829133621.A4206@visi.com> <39AC078C.4EFF255D@redhat.co.uk> <000901c011ef$b8839160$1201a8c0@crusoe> <39AC1265.947D9697@redhat.co.uk> <39AC12F4.9C2F7678@redhat.co.uk> <000f01c01217$df482950$0201a8c0@raccoon> <39AD89EC.69AD0185@redhat.com> <001901c012d5$3cf3f990$1201a8c0@crusoe> <3.0.5.32.20000831013839.00ace4c0@mailhost> X-SW-Source: 2000-08/msg00352.html > Jonathan, do you really mean that redhat is actually maintaining two > separate threads of gdd/gdb/ecos, and that the one we're sweating on (I > myself for one) is just some sort of bait? > And all this in the name of the sacred open source, the plan being to get > us hooked on the light and buggy weed, then sell us the harder stuff for > real cash? > This is an interesting business model indeed, and reminds me of another one. > So, if I understand it right, the purpose of the open-source part including > this list is to bring us to the point where we say "now that the project is > late, we went this far, and invested all this time on that ecos thing, > there is no alternative left" ...as to plunk down a lot of good money to > get what was there all the time in the first place, namely the various > shrink-wrapped products like VxWorks, Psos, QNX, and the like? > If opensource operates in this way, I don't think this is the freedom we advocate. But this message that the toolchain I use is different from eCos maintainer make me sad. :( I remember one thing, last year, I pay $400 to buy a CodeFusion from Cygnus, actually it is not important for me, I just want to take a look at what the opensource IDE developement status. Of course, I think it is ok, but didn't play with it a lot. Last month, the Source Navigator is open sourced, I don't know what I pay the $400 for now. :-) Last time, I talked with NEC, they said they pay a lot to Cygnus for the toolchain on NEC MIPS, I don't know why I can not get a proper toolchain works properly. I really follow the instruction on the eCos website carefully. Regards, -Ling Regards, -Ling