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From: "Stefan Sommerfeld" <sommerfeld@mikrom.de>
To: <ecos-discuss@ecos.sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [ECOS] ISR to DSR delay?
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:26:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <003801c5cff9$5daf8f00$8262fea9@nullnullsix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051013130155.GB6114@lunn.ch>

Hi,

> On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 02:42:58PM +0200, Stefan Sommerfeld wrote:
>> BTW: Why is "c++ empty delete function" a default option? I took me a 
>> day
>> to find out why my system consumes a lot memory.
>
> Its a philisophical thing.
>
> Small footprint embedded systems, which is what eCos is targeted to,
> tend to use static allocated memory. That way they know they have
> enough memory either at compile time, or just after the system has
> started running when it allocates all the memory it needs for the rest
> of its life. This also makes the code simpler and smaller. You don't
> need to worry about running out of memory if you survive the startup
> phase. It is not normal to free memory since objects live until the
> system crashes/reboots. In such systems delete() is just a waste of
> space, but the linker is unlikely to be able to throw it away. So an
> empty implementation is used.

Of course, i agree it's an important function for embedded system, but i 
would suggest that it's not by default enabled.

> Now i guess you are not using eCos for what its primarily targeted
> to. If you are using C++ with dynamically allocated objects you are
> probably on a big fat footprint embedded system.

I'm using eCos as a RTOS ... XScale 520MHz with 64MB RAM :)

>
> What i suppose we could do to help people in your situation is that if
> INFRA_DEBUG is enabled add a counter to count the number of times
> delete() is called. If it exceeds 100 throw an assert. When the assert
> goes off and you start investigating it, it will quickly become
> obvious what you need to do....

That would be an option ....

Bye... 


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-13 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-13 12:44 Stefan Sommerfeld
2005-10-13 13:02 ` Andrew Lunn
2005-10-13 13:26   ` Stefan Sommerfeld [this message]
2005-10-13 14:01     ` Andrew Lunn
2005-10-13 13:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2005-11-01 12:29   ` Stefan Sommerfeld

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